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[-] MxM111@kbin.social 35 points 7 months ago

Basically democracies. It is kind of difficult to consider non-democratic dictators like Putin or Kim Jong-un as representatives of some kind of “community”.

[-] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 7 months ago

You know the vast majority of south and central americas are democracies too, right?

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 34 points 7 months ago

Also a not-insignificant amount of Asia, Africa, and Pacific islands.

[-] Furball@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

South America just isn’t really too involved in international politics in general, the whole region is neutral in almost all conflicts since very few directly affect them

[-] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago

They are involved in their own politics, just like the first world only cares about what happens to the first world.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Israel confirmed first world..?

[-] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yes, first world means "allied to the US" and has nothing to do with standard of living.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

If you use the old Cold War definition, yes. Otherwise

However, as the Cold War ended with the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the definition largely shifted to instead refer to any country that boasts a well-functioning democratic system with little prospects of political risk, in addition to a strong rule of law, a capitalist economy with economic stability, and a high standard of living.

[-] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

No, but they are directly tied to the US.

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I said this about Assad as well, but when someone is a forever ruler, it may not be as democratic as the name implies

[-] MxM111@kbin.social -4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Of course. I am not going to defend the particular choice of countries in that picture. Where is South Korea, for example? However. Democracy is greater than just democratic election. Fascists in Germany also come to power in a free democratic election, does not make Nazi Germany a democratic country.

[-] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

The nazis in Germany came to power in the "Machtergreifung" (seizure of power).
In the last free democratic election, they got 33% of the vote.

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, but it was by far the largest (the second party got just 20%) and in multiparty system that was enough to later enact laws that made it into dictatorship.

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