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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would simply not go to that restaurant anymore and very plainly let them know why. This is greed and I will not reward it.

Much like when I place a to go order and go pick up the order and the POS (point of sale not piece of shit if you’re wondering) system pops up that tip screen. You didn’t do anything worthy of a tip so I will not be tipping you. Now if for example when I get there they apply some discount I wasn’t aware of that makes my bill cheaper, I’ll tip for that. Throw in some extra cheese sauce, tip. Anything above and beyond, tip. Just ring me up and hand me my food, yeah no tip.

[–] DrMango@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's this (the service charge) or they raise prices across the menu. Some people prefer this, some people prefer the added cost baked in.

Personally I think the service charge is a little deceptive because you are hit with an unexpected expense at the end of your meal. Even if they're very up front about the charge most people won't be automatically calculating the 18% extra on whatever they're spending, they're just going to look at the price on the menu.

[–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some people prefer this

Citation needed.

I think those people own restaurants

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They have raise prices across the menu, by 18% to be more specific.

Segregating the price increase as "service fee" is only so that they can deceitfully advertise their prices a lower than they really are, also known as a Bait & Switch, a form of Consumer Fraud.

[–] Rivalarrival 0 points 1 year ago

Not quite. A $100 meal would have a routine 15%, $15 tip. Increase the price 18%, and a $118 meal would have an expected 15%, $17.70 tip.

Look at the tip calculations on this receipt: they are based on the price of the meal before the service fee. If this restaurant sold a $118 meal, it's expected 15% tip would be $15, not $17.70.

They are stealing $2.70 from staff on every $100 check.

[–] Rivalarrival 1 points 1 year ago

Look at the calculated tips. They are based on $95.60, the price of the meal before the 18% service charge.

If they raise their prices by 18%, they would have to raise their tip calculation by 18%.

They are stiffing their employees.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You realize that giving you 5% off so you will tip 15% is still greed though right? The greed is always there, it's just your perception of how it's delivered. We expect a little foreplay with our greed.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I didn’t say I was giving them 15%. I give 18% for full service. But a buck or two for something like this.