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Poll finds that fewer Gen Z boys identify as Feminists than Millenials-- and the same % as Gen X.
(www.mensjournal.com)
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Though others have pointed out alternative interpretations of the poll (such as merely disagreeing with the label, not the ideals, of feminism), I am going to voice the minority opinion here: the straightforward interpretation may be right. In fact, I unfortunately find it completely plausible. Millennials, after all, went through ten formative years of #MeToo and BLM, the biggest protests for equality in a century. The younger generation aren't going through a cultural revolution anywhere near that scale. Things have quieted down, and sentiment may have regressed to the mean.
I also think people may be underestimating how powerful rightwing bro media has become, with radical figures becoming mainstream like Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan, etc. I don't see many countervailing feminist voices with as much reach, especially those targeting impressionable boys. I'm not sure about any of this, and I know some may not like to hear the alarm, but I think we need to be realistic about the possibility.
There are also things like dating apps to consider. More and more adults are finding their relationships through dating apps, and women can be pretty disrespectful (obviously this doesn't mean that men aren't disrespectful as well).
"Must be 6'0", have a steady job, must worship me, I hate men if you know what I mean" etc. See too much of that shit, go too long without any matches (alongside things like porn addiction giving you a skewed perspective on what sex/relationships are) and it's hard not to take it personally.
This isn't to say the young men are faultless, by any means. Just something that adds fuel to the fire.
I haven't been in the dating world for quite a while but I assumed that type of profile was pretty rare and just commonly posted online to be ridiculed. Is that not the case?
While it's probably rare to find a profile with everything I listed , many profiles have at least one of the things I mentioned. Most common one I've seen from the list is being unwilling to date men below 6 feet tall. Second most would have to be the "men r bad" or some variation of that.
I'm not comfortable blaming women for how horrible dating is, but I take your point that people can sometimes be pretty disrespectful.
But given that we're making a comparative claim between generations, I wonder if this really explains the difference. Is disrespect on dating apps so much worse for gen Z men than Millennial men that it's making men less feminist? I'm skeptical.
I would not blame women for how bad dating apps are either. But I think the average person would say something like "the women in my area suck" or "women just don't like me" before they think the design of the app itself is part of the problem. Does that make them less feminist? Still probably not, but it could push them towards pickup artists type guys if they are really frustrated.
Obviously it isn't black and white/women bad men good.