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Windows will let european users uninstall many system components such as Bing or Edge soon (blogs.windows.com)
submitted 11 months ago by albert180@feddit.de to c/europe@feddit.de
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geteilt von: https://lemmy.world/post/8371095

Long post and well worth the read, but the interesting part to me is this:

Windows operating system and apps

Customers using Windows have always used a combination of operating system functionality as well as apps, but now Windows will clearly identify operating system functionality in places like Settings, Start, and Search:

  • Settings > System > System Components will show notable operating system components.
  • Start menu’s All Apps list has been renamed to All and operating system components are labeled with “system”.
  • Under Search, search results will show operating system components labeled with “system”.

All apps in Windows can be uninstalled. Of course, apps can always be installed again from the Microsoft Store and internet. Settings > Apps > Installed apps continue to show all the apps installed on the PC and we’ve added the ability to uninstall:

  • Camera
  • Cortana
  • Web Search from Microsoft Bing, in the EEA
  • Microsoft Edge, in the EEA
  • Photos
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[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 94 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"system components" is a weird way of spelling forced bloatware.

[–] madis@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well... dependencies can still exist, which would justify the "system" marking. For example, different programs' WebViews depend on Edge nowadays, though maybe it is possible to isolate having that rendering engine without having the full browser program.

[–] redeven@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft already has a webview software that deals with that, which afaik already also comes with Windows, and is independent of Edge.

Edge, the browser proper, is in no way a dependency of anything else.

[–] demosthememes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago

This came about from the Netscape v MSFT browser wars; where MSFT tried to argue that because IE was bolted directly into the OS, it therefore had to come preinstalled without asking & could not be uninstalled. The court ordered them to unbolt it & bundle it as a separate install - just like other browsers.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For example, different programs’ WebViews depend on Edge nowadays

I.e. the programmer could not care less about adherence to standards. Or, in other words: The software is buggy.

[–] trigonated@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think you might've misunderstood what a WebView is.

A WebView is just another UI component/control/widget that windows apps can use, just like how things like buttons, check boxes, text fields, etc are also UI components. The idea is for developers to be able to just use those common components instead of re-programming them every time.

The WebView is used to display html content (not necessarily web pages) inside an app without the developer needing to basically program or embed an entire browser engine in their app just to show something.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

I think you might’ve misunderstood what a WebView is.

I don't think so. It's a box displaying HTML. If it depends solely on Edge being present and installed - this is a bug (of the WebView implementation). If it could be based on any browser, but the user puts Edge-specific non-standard HTML in it, it's a bug, too (this time by the HTML provider).