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[-] Norgur@kbin.social 116 points 7 months ago

Thing is: there is always the "next better thing" around the corner. That's what progress is about. The only thing you can do is choose the best available option for you when you need new hardware and be done with it until you need another upgrade.

[-] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 84 points 7 months ago

Exactly. The best time to buy a graphics card is never

[-] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 19 points 7 months ago

really my rule of thumb has always been when it's a significant upgrade.

for a long time i didn't really upgrade until it was a 4x increase over my old. certain exceptions were occasionally made. nowadays i'm a bit more opportunistic in my upgrades. but i still seek out 'meaningful' upgrades. upgrades that are a decent jump over the old. typically 50% improvement in performance, or upgrades i can get for really cheap.

[-] schmidtster@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

4x…? Even in older cards that’s more than a decade between cards.

A 4080 is only 2.5x as powerful as a 1080ti, those are 5 years apart.

[-] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What's wrong with upgrading once every 5-10 years? Not everyone plays the latest games on 4k Ultra

Admittedly 4x is a bit steep, more like 3-4x

[-] schmidtster@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Starfield requires a minimum 1070ti to play. It’s not just about fidelity, you just wouldn’t be able to play any newer games.

[-] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago

I had a 1080ti and the only game that really gave me grief playing on high settings was Starfield. I’m not saying older cards won’t have problems playing newer games but I am saying all cards have problems playing Starfield.

[-] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 7 months ago
[-] SheDiceToday@eslemmy.es 2 points 7 months ago

Dude, there's dozens of us!

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It depends on what you need. I think usually you can get the best bang for buck by buying the now previous generation when the new one is released.

[-] miketunes@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Yup just picked up a whole PC with rtx3090 for $800.

[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago
[-] miketunes@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago
[-] khaliso@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago
[-] miketunes@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah eBay Canada, was a great deal

[-] Datto@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Best Buy has refurbished PC's with 4070s for under a grand right now.

[-] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

Graphics card. Not even once.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Real gamers use ayahuasca.

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You have a magical button. If you press it now, you will get $100 and it will disappear. Every year you don't press it, the amount of money you will get if you do press it goes up by 20%. When should you press the button? At any given point in time, waiting just one more year adds an entire 20% to your eventual prize, so it never makes sense to press it, but you have to eventually or you get nothing.

Same thing with graphics cards.

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

Is it compound or straight percentage?

Cuz if it's just straight percentage then it's $20 a year, whereas if it is compound then it's a 2X multiplier every three and a half years roughly.

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Compound, which more closely models the actual rate at which computing power has grown over the years.

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

So if I waited roughly 35 years then I would get $1 million...

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Or you could wait 70 years and leave 34 million to people in your will... The point is that there is no mathematically correct choice.

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

I think I got about 77 years left in me, unless somebody comes along and kills me that is.

That at least would be $125 million which isn't too shabby. I find it hard to believe that anybody would say that $125 million 77 years from now would not be a considerable amount of money.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 7 months ago

Once you need it, or, alternatively, once you have enough to live comfortably for the rest of your life. It's exponential growth, you only get one chance, just gotta decide what your goal with the money actually is.

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Yep. My point is that there's no easily calculable, mathematically "correct" moment to push the button. Same goes for buying a graphics card.

[-] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

Press it before you retire

Same with graphics cards

[-] hydroel@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Yeah it's always that: "I want to buy the new shiny thing! But it's expensive, so I'll wait for a while for its price to come down." You wait for a while, the price comes down, you buy the new shiny thing and then comes out the newest shiny thing.

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago

Yep. There will always be "just wait N months and there will be the bestest thing that beats the old bestest thing". You are guaranteed to get buyers remorse when shopping for hardware. Just buy what best suits you or needs and budget at the time you decided is the best.time for you (or at the time your old component bites the dust) and then stop looking at any development on those components for at least a year. Just ignore any deals, new releases, whatever and be happy with the component you bought.

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago

I bought a 1080 for my last PC build, downloaded the driver installer and ran the setup. There were ads in the setup for the 2k series that had launched the day before. FML

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

Yep. I bought a 4080 just a few weeks ago. Now there is ads for the refresh all over... Thing is: you card didn't get any worse. You thought the card was a good value proposition for you when you bought it and it hasn't lost any of that.

[-] alessandro@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

choose the best available option

"The" point. Which is the best available option?

The simplest answer would be "price per fps".

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago

Not always. I'm doing a lot of rendering and such. So FPS aren't my primary concern.

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