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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 110 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That is clearly not true.

We also give massive tax breaks to corporations that then don’t do the things for which the breaks were given — e.g. Foxconn in WI. Build a chip plant? Nah we’re good.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 82 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Reminder that the US Congress gave AT&T and Verizon BILLIONS of dollars to build out a national broadband network decades ago. They pocketed that money and didn't lay a single ~~meter~~ foot of fiber with zero consequences.

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Billions of taxpayer money gone to AT&T and Verizon? Sounds like their infrastructure should be seized and nationalized.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Wait till you hear about how much money the US (and Canada) spent to bail out private railroads. The same railroads that are openly hostile to running nationalized passenger rail. Even being allowed to have passenger train wheels touch their tracks is like pulling teeth so we can forget about actual, functional intercity rail like they have in the developed world.

[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In a lot of cases I don't think you'd want passenger cars on those rails...

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

We have plenty of traffic on the Trans Canada Highway between cities that could be diverted away from car travel. Intercity bus service as well. The prairies is especially good for high speed rail because you can build perfectly straight tracks at ground level for long distances since it's mostly farmland, and there are aready many straight trunk roads they can share corridor with, which could potentially start competing with planes if they go at the higher end speeds that already exist in the industry, and downtown to downtown. Bombardier even made high speed trains before we lost them. And certainly more environmentally friendly than planes and cars.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

The prairies aren't actually like that. They seem like that if you're driving through on the trans canada, which, you're right, would be a good high speed rail corridor if you had the market.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

They did, though. I have fiber in my middle of nowhere camp because of the NBP. And I don't even have a fiber option in the city where I live.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Consequences for not fulfilling our end of the deal? Nah, we're good there too.