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[-] mcc@sh.itjust.works 46 points 11 months ago

To be honest, a lot of Republicans are still very respectable. The republican platform is fucked up, but if you are talking to your neighbor, don't make his party affliation equal to his personal belief. A Democrat doesn't believe in everything in the Democrat's platform either.

In that sense, insulting a party is not generally helpful for public discourse.

[-] NewEnglandRedshirt@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

Then where is the Republican outrage against the fascist policies so many Republican politicians are advocating for? There are only two options: either they don't care, or they're secretly happy.

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." ~~Martin Luther King, Jr

[-] mcc@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

If you are not in the republican circle, how do you even know how they perceive the policies?

[-] NewEnglandRedshirt@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

... did you read the MLK quote I included? The fact that there aren't many Republicans loudly and repeatedly condemning the leaders of the party says exactly that. If you want to read the whole thing, I recommend you take a look at King's full Letter from a Birmingham Jail to fully understand the point: silence means acceptance.

[-] mcc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

You look at this thread, and you ask "where's all the voices". You don't find that ironic?

Silence could mean acceptance, it doesn't mean agreement. Just like being on the left if I say "let's keep the discussion going" all you fuckers are gonna downvote me to oblivion and accuse me of less intelligent and make anyone who have a different idea an outcast, it is the same thing for republicans. Someone who don't go with the flow is made an outcast, so if you don't agree, tough luck.

Yeh, if the left treat its different opinions like this, what the fuck you think a republican having a different opinion is treated like? So if you are strongly for the core policies of your affiliated party, would you raise your voice? Or if you did, you think those voices get heard and get reported?

[-] NewEnglandRedshirt@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

See, now, the 1920s and 1930s taught us that reasonable debate with fascists is impossible. So where are all the Republicans in the public sphere standing up for moderation? No offense to you, but you're a rando on the internet (and so am I). Where are the politicians standing up to the far right?

[-] mcc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

So where are all the Republicans in the public sphere standing up for moderation?

You know even from liberal media that there is a moderate republican faction, and they are indeed getting hammered exactly by people just like you but from the right.

See, now, the 1920s and 1930s taught us that reasonable debate with fascists is impossible.

Where did you learn that? A reasonable debate with any extremism is impossible, it isn't just fascism. Point is you can't let an ideology slip into extremism to begin with. If you refuse to debate your position, that's already a sign of extremism, and calling your counterpart fascist doesn't really make yourself better.

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