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[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 168 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Remember, the American Nazi party had a ridiculous amount of traction. Enough to fill Madison Square Garden for Washington's birthday. Those people didn't just vanish after WWII. They didn't denounce their beliefs. They just crawled into the cracks like cockroaches.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Also the Nazis took example with the pledge of allegiance as an effective tool for indoctrination of school children. In the US it also used to be done with the same gesture that is now the Nazi salute.

Furthermore eugenics and race theory were prominent as "sciences" in the US and the Nazis also took example there. If it wasnt for the alliance to the Japanese and Pearl Harbor, the US might well have been on the Nazis side of history, given that the social and ideological culture had many more similarities than disagreements.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

While your comment about the Nazis getting a lot of their eugenics ideas from America in the 20's-30's is accurate, there's no way in hell that we'd have just accidentally ended up in the Axis powers like that.

Were there Nazis in the US? Absolutely. Was their ideology common and/or the majority? Not at all.

We were literally allied with countries that the Nazis were attacking, and assisting them with supplies long before we ever entered the war due to Pearl Harbor. That's before we even get into things like the Zimmerman note which indicated that the Germans in WW1 wanted to engage us as an enemy, which doesn't bode well for their actions against those same allies 20 years later.

You're taking the fact that eugenics existed here in the US and making up a metric fuck ton of revisionist history surrounding it.

[–] kgbbot@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

You say all that, but remember the time Prescott Bush was part of a group of rich and powerful men that tried to overthrow FDR and install a fascist government?

[–] ToastyMedic@reddthat.com 26 points 1 year ago

That last paragraph is a load of bs.

As long as FDR was in office, there was literally no way the US would have joined Germany. It wasn't a matter of if, but a matter of when the USA got involved. The us was in by proxy before 41/42, Doing the same stuff the modern US has done for Ukraine, but for the Commonwealth nations.

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[–] smokinjoe@kbin.social 126 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not as much of a rebrand as a merger

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[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh great, we're doing political feel-good posting on this site too? Such low hanging fruit.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's definitely a discussion to be had for how the very far right (people whose core political ideology is based in racial prejudice and literal palingenetic ultranationalism) latch onto the sole major conservative political party in the United States and how they, as a component voting block, are catered to, if not explicitly represented by, portions of that party, and even dog whistled to by the party as a whole. This post, though, comes across as straight liberal smugposting and is somewhere between completely useless and actively harmful.

[–] RatMaster@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Agree with almost everything except the useless or harmful part. It's just a meme meant for a quick laugh, it's not that serious.

If we want to be serious though, the Republican party has been going further and further right in the past couple of years. The meme is kind of expressing this in a way.

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[–] Lamy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Please have some respect; nazis are nowhere near as bad as Microsoft

[–] SeeMinusMinus@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (18 children)

As a commie linux user I fight nazi and microsoft

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[–] torafugu@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Agreed. Microsoft is bad to the point to where I switched to Arch Linux. They ain't getting my data now!

[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] mcc@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 year ago (33 children)

To be honest, a lot of Republicans are still very respectable. The republican platform is fucked up, but if you are talking to your neighbor, don't make his party affliation equal to his personal belief. A Democrat doesn't believe in everything in the Democrat's platform either.

In that sense, insulting a party is not generally helpful for public discourse.

[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't give a shit about personal beliefs, I care about outcomes. Republicans' desired outcomes actively hurt people I care about, so I can absolutely tell them to fuck off. Even if they don't "believe in everything," they are indifferent enough to let horrible things happen.

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[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck Republicans and fuck Democrats.

[–] mcc@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

That's the spirit.

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[–] NewEnglandRedshirt@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Then where is the Republican outrage against the fascist policies so many Republican politicians are advocating for? There are only two options: either they don't care, or they're secretly happy.

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." ~~Martin Luther King, Jr

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Exactly anyone today that votes Republican or calls themselves one (my boss) yet continues to vote republican just because either don't care or wants what they want.

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[–] glacier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Democrats are not perfect, but if someone identifies as a Republican in 2023, there is something deeply wrong with their personal beliefs.

[–] mcc@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Dehumanizing your subject is easy. Republicans do that to people on the left too. Let's just hate each other till we destroy each other. That's gonna get a good society going.

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[–] slicedcheesegremlin@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

United Fruit Company ---> Chiquita

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

This is seriously funny! Too bad so many commenters are apologists.

[–] varzaman@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How is Microsoft and Target rebrands when it literally still says Microsoft and Target?

[–] raspberry_confetti@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago

The brand is the corporate iconography, typography, etc. Not necessarily the name.

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[–] NimbleField@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Walt Disney would be proud

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The confederates were (southern) democrats

[–] ApoptosisHotline@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

... that became Republicans in the 60s?

But that's not the history I want to remember!!!

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[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Do you not know what actually happened and want people to tell you? Or are you just being willfully ignorant?

[–] raspberry_confetti@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

tHe CoNfEdErAtEs WeRe DeMoCrAtS

[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

More important than the name of their party is their ideology. Conservative.

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[–] slicedcheesegremlin@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

true but the party switch was a thing

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[–] UniDestroyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I still don't understand how so many people equate the party that supports free speech with the Nazis, and equate the party that wants to disarm the poor with the freedom fighters.

[–] akintudne@reddthat.com 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, right, "free speech," unless you write a book with two guys kissing, then it must be banned from schools. Or tear up a photo on TV. Or protest wars in the Middle East. Or kneel during the national anthem. They are all for Cancel Culture and silencing people who speak out against them and their ideas.

The only time conservatives actually get up in arms about "free speech," which they don't actually know what it even is, is when they get banned on Twitter for spewing lies and hate. So get out of here with your "supports free speech" nonsense.

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[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You mean the party banning books? That free speech party?

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[–] NewEnglandRedshirt@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Definitely curious how the party actively working to ban books and prevent people from expressing themselves artistically in public is supporting free speech.

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