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[โ€“] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Scissors and knives.

I used to sell high end stuff like that, and let me tell you, there's a trope about crafters considering murder when someone uses their, say, fabric scissors or sewing scissors to cut paper or something that ruins them. For scissors, however, nothing is more expensive and delicate than a decent set of haircutting shears used by professional hair stylists. Fuck, some go into the HUNDREDS of dollars or more. And then some clown wants to cut some box open with them.

Knives, though. Good set of chefs knives goes into the thousands. Like the kind used by professional chefs. I had some chef clients who tell me horror stories about some kitchen yokel using a $350 hand forged Santoku to stab open a can of tomato paste or toss into a cutting board like a throwing knife.

But even basic knives. People using them as prybars, hammers, screwdrivers, and tossing them in a drawer with other metal rattling around.

[โ€“] platypode@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago

"Never use a knife as anything but a knife or you'll end up disappointed and with a broken knife."

Not sure where I heard that first, but it's stuck with me.

[โ€“] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have junk scissors that I buy for a couple of bucks and replace as necessary for all the things that I need to cut. I also have kitchen junk scissors for cutting open plastic that food gets packaged in. If I found someone using my poultry shears or kitchen knives for anything besides their intended use I would ask them to leave and never come back.

Don't touch my tools. That includes the things in my garage, my kitchen tools (cookware, knives, shears, barbecue stuff, whatever), and my electronics tools. I can't imagine someone using one of my instruments incorrectly, but don't touch those either. If you want to touch anything, ask. Don't be surprised if I try to make sure you know the right way to use it before I hand it over.

[โ€“] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Scouts, when we got issued our first pocket knife, they had a whole thing to go with it about care and responsibilities. One part that still sticks to me this day is, "never ever loan your knife to someone. There's a reason they don't have one, and it might be a good reason. Either they aren't allowed to have one, or not responsible with their last knife and lost it, or broke it, or had it taken away. The same will happen to your knife if you give it to him."

[โ€“] verdigris@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is terrible advice, most people don't carry a knife because it's just not necessary in everyday life. That quote was clearly written for young boys playing with other young boys: if I asked a buddy for his knife and he said "Where's yours? Guess you're not responsible enough for one" I would get a new friend before I got a new knife.

the absolute man-child energy coming off of the downvoters...

[โ€“] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Most people don't carry a knife because it's just not necessary in everyday life."

See? There is a reason you do not have one, and would never ask for one.

[โ€“] verdigris@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

No, genius, that's a reason to ask for one.

[โ€“] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm using your tools right now, and there's nothing you can do about it

[โ€“] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'll do to you what I do to other unwanted pests! I'll yell "Go-on, getonouttahurr!" ineffectually while shooing you away with whatever I've got at hand.

This is why I keep a cheap shitty knife with my camping stuff and in my toolbox. Because if you're going to abuse the hell out of it, a 10 euro knife is just as good as a 100 euro one

[โ€“] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I was shocked once when my roommate decided that the best way to get the freshly chopped garlic into her pot was to knock the blade side of the knife several times until the garlic fell off.

[โ€“] Shurimal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For scissors, however, nothing is more expensive and delicate than a decent set of haircutting shears

I have a very cheap pair of haircutting scissors. I've used them to cut thin aluminium sheet. Still work OK for trimming my beard. I'm an absolute monster๐Ÿ™ƒ

As for knives, some 10 years ago I bought a cheap (I think 2 or 3 โ‚ฌ) Swedish-made fixed blade with nylon gripโ€”the kind contractors and builders use. Thing is pretty much indestructible, cutting open tin cans and splitting of splinters from logs for firestarter like it's nothing. Has a nice carbon steel blade and used to have very nice hollow ground that has been long been downgraded to flat ground due to many, many sharpenings.

[โ€“] gsfraley@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Shurimal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I doubt 0.1...0.2 mm aluminium sheet metal is good for any scissors๐Ÿ™ƒ

[โ€“] TeaHands@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I have special sewing scissors, AND I have special haircutting scissors, as well as us having just regular everyday scissors of course. Can confirm after a couple of "incidents" my husband is now very very careful to pick up the right ones!