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[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (81 children)

Being from a very rural area: guns are tools. They provide self defense against wildlife and crazy humans when you're miles outside of law enforcement coverage, they are pest control, and they are a humane way of euthanasia when a farm animal is suffering.

And like most other tools, such as drills, post hole augers, machine lathes, tractors, cars, etc... they can maim and kill indiscriminately when used incorrectly or maliciously. But you cannot simply ban or remove the tool from everywhere because it is still serves a very important purpose. Can they be more controlled, education made mandatory, more stringent confiscation rules in the case of people with mental illness? Yes, and probably should. But you will never eliminate the firearm completely.

I am prepared to recieve the hate and downvotes for providing a measured, reasonable response.

[–] Dominojack@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The difference between a gun and tractor is that a gun is a tool designed to kill. Don't conflate farming equipment with killing machines

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Says someone who's never used either on a farm

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is that supposed to be some kind of gotcha? How exactly does not owning gun or working on a farm negate the fact that a gun is a singular purpose tool?

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How does a gun being a singular purpose tool exclude it from being farm equipment? Do you think a thresher does anything else but thresh?

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A thresher is a labor saving tool, it replaces the physical labor of separating wheat from chaff. Without a thresher a farmer can still accomplish the task.

A gun is made specifically and solely to move a projectile down range with lethal velocity. What labor is a gun saving?

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Guns are useful on farms for pest control, euthanizing livestock, and self defense.

All of those could be accomplished through other means, therefore guns are ok, according to your logic

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

All you're saying is that a gun is used to kill/maim, which is exactly my point, which is why the "hurr durr a gun is just another tool" argument doesn't hold water.

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And clearly you don't see why that's necessary on a farm, which is exactly my point

Beating your attacker to death with a rock is a lot harder. Especially the four legged kind of attacker

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