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[–] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago (6 children)

i wish firefox wasn’t neutered on ios

[–] notepass@feddit.de 127 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That one is on apple tho.

Hoping for more EU intervention on those tools.

[–] novapitch@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Although I agree that Firefox should be freed on iOS, but should chrome?

A significant amount of browsers on iOS would probably move to blink/chromium the first chance they get(like they do on Android), which only serves to strengthen Google's monopoly in the space.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The alternative would be ... The EU rules that only webkit and Firefox are allowed on iOS...? That's not happening, nor should it. (Fuck Google still though, I agree with your stance there)

[–] notepass@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Better than apple doing whatever the fuck they want. Imagine Microsoft would have only allowed IE based browsers on windows. We would still be in the IE days, because why put work into something when you can just force people to use it?

At least with chrome it is used because it is a pretty competent engine.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I mean if I was dictator I would do this... But some people would hate me for it and they'd have a decent argument to make. It won't happen... But yeah, fuck googl cannot be said enough

[–] PHLAK@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, equal ground should be given to all. Unfortunately, you're right about Chromium but that doesn't mean we shouldn't play fair.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Genuine question, why stick to ios in that case? I can see a normie who is unaware of these stuff keep using apple since their use case isn't that complex and apple gives a decent baseline.

But, ios legitimately sucks because it's so restrictive and here your personal productivity is going down because of it.

[–] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I used Android and its variants for 10+ years. With each version you had to do more and more battle to somewhat safeguard any shed of privacy. It was exhausting.

So I bit the bullet and chose the lesser of two evils. Apple > Google.

Happy so far.

[–] Huschke@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You cloud always use LineageOS or even better GrapheneOS. With Apple, you're just trading one devil for another.

[–] henrikx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Considering your comment I wouldn't say you are happy lol

[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no lesser. 4 oz pile of blue shit is same as 4 oz pile of pink shit. Both the enshittification process will enshrine.

[–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, you guys will soon get sideloading. Hopefully someone ports it to iOS

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Orion supports (some) Firefox extensions. Worth a look imo.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow, yes it is!

Just tested Firefox Focus, Vivaldi, Opera, DuckDuckGo, and Safari with Hyperweb (non-optimized adblock configuration admittedly).

Orion blocked more ads out of the box than the rest. Impressive. Says it supports some Chrome extensions too. (Didn’t test.)

Interesting there’s no default search engine. There is an extremely gentle prod towards Kagi by listing all other search engines under “Ad-Supported”.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I just found this out and sure enough it works.

[–] helmet91@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What do you mean? How does Firefox behave on iOS? There is no extension support, or what? (I've never used iOS.)

[–] smolyeet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Browsers on iOS just use WebKit. So chromium or quantum aren’t allowed. So all the work Firefox is doing for android isn’t compatible

[–] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah, i don’t think the app store allows it. or it may be related to the fact that firefox has to use the safari engine on ios

[–] helmet91@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Whaaaat? Damn.

Nowadays I tend to feel fed up with Android and switching to iOS crosses my mind sometimes, but the more I hear about iOS, the more I appreciate Android.

Seriously, WTF?! A web browser is a pretty essential tool, I can't believe a real Firefox version cannot be installed.

I guess, my long term solution will be some Android-fork.