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Anon searches for normal politics (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 11 months ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to c/greentext@sh.itjust.works

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Actually, Communism has never existed.

[–] endhits@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Primitive communism has, just not industrial or post industrial.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Jewish kibbutz

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago

There was also the hybrid communism system which was called a technit

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Every family or tribal unit is essentially communism. It's not like money changes hands between small children and parents. It's literally "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs".

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Family or tribal unit is single agent

[+] NotSoCoolWhip@lemmy.world -9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Neither has capitalism

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The term was specifically created to describe the status quo when Karl Marx was knocking about.

[–] NotSoCoolWhip@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If true communism has never existed, then wouldnt it stand to reason that capitalism hasn't either? You cannot buy drugs etc legally. I'm talking about snow crash/BioShock capitalism.

I was trying to say that neither extreme has been tried, although we are damn close

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I’m talking about snow crash/BioShock capitalism.

Oh. Well I'm not, haha. Capitalism for me is when the means of production is in private hands and the owner employs people to do the labour for a fraction of the value of the end product in order to make a profit. That quite accurately describes the current status quo, I think!

I was trying to say that neither extreme has been tried, although we are damn close

Well okay, point taken.

[–] hashferret@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Ah. We need an anarchist state so we can give capitalism a proper go /s

[–] rchive@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

I don't believe that, but it's certainly true that some people compare real world capitalism and hypothetical utopian communism, etc., which is obviously not a serious comparison.