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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well yes of course there is that.

But even if they were possible it would not be an appropriate response. The centralist position in this case is barely any better than the defeatist position. Ukraine still ultimately ends up losing and Russias choice to attack is justified. After all what they're after in that scenario is gained land.