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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Given the high cost and long lead times involved, I'm incredibly dubious about this one actually happening.

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[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

With the price drop in renewables it just doesn’t make much sense economically

[–] NinePeedles@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why are people down voting this? I ask sincerely. I would have assumed the same thing.

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

It is an ideological thing with some people - it doesn’t matter what makes sense economically. You can find a comment on the same level as this one where someone is talking about lacking energy density. I value my time too high to start arguing against something I know is a bad faith argument and nothing will come of it.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because nuclear has WAY more power generation than other renewables.

Solar, wind, geothermal, and hydro won't be able to keep up with electricity demand if we want to eliminate fossil fuels. The power density of nuclear just can't be matched.

[–] Hugohase@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure about that? I just mean on account of that no being true!

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You misunderstood what I'm saying. I'm not talking about what is powering things, I'm talking about what we need in order to power an all-electric future.

Nuclear has a much higher power capacity for generation than solar and wind.

If we want to replace the coal, natural gas, and oil in that graph, we're going to need nuclear.

[–] Hugohase@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

What we need now, to not transform earth into a postapocalyptic wasteland, are renewables. What type of electricity we use after that I don't care about.