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[-] seansand@lemm.ee 102 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

To be fair, if you want content on Mastodon, you have to actively go out, find people, and follow them. After you get past that Step 1 of signing up, your home page is empty. There's no algorithm that automatically deposits content on the main page. You have to do a little bit of work to get anything. As you say, doing this work is not that god damn hard, but sadly for about 80% of people (maybe more), this is an impassible barrier.

On the bright side, once you do get past this barrier, none of the Mastodon content that you are getting is from that bottom eighty percent.

[-] iorale@lemmy.fmhy.ml 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also the first barrier of picking a server (how it works, the rules of every instance, checking who they federate with) and an app (the will to test multiple apps, learning that to login you have to input the server url manually since most aren't listed in the apps), to the people who read all the things it's tedious but doable, for the rest it's "Which one is the RIGHT choice?" and just stay at the door.

Also servers with poorly written rules don't help (example: mstdn.mx says porn and politics are forbidden, but in reality they allow them as long as you tag then properly).

These kind of posts don't help either, because it makes people feel like they are too stupid to join and rather stick to the known services, but omit all the actual process that someone has to go through.

[-] blivet@kbin.social 40 points 11 months ago

to the people who read all the things it’s tedious but doable, for the rest it’s “Which one is the RIGHT choice?” and just stay at the door

Exactly. I'm a programmer and I do server administration on a small scale, but when I went to sign up for Mastodon my first reaction was, "How the hell am I supposed to know what instance I want my account to be on?" and I left. After a couple of weeks of absorbing random bits of information about how federation works I went back and completed the account creation process, but I really doubt that the average user who just wants to sign up for a service and use it is going to get past that step.

[-] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago

Apps need to automatically assign users randomly to one of the non-controversial general instances, and letting them change it if they want.

Lemmy and other fediverse clients need to do this too imo

[-] blivet@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

I agree. The information should be easily available if they are interested, but end users shouldn't be required to know about the underlying mechanics of the fediverse simply in order to create an account and browse.

[-] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Great thing about lemmy and most of the apps being open source is we users can add those features in ourselves. I'm sure they will be later, the fediverse is only now starting to grow after all.

[-] Savirius@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Hmm, maybe if an app's creator hosted their own instance just for accounts (i.e. with no posts of its own). That way, a new user can download an app, set up an account on that app's dedicated accounts server, and start browsing all the other instances from there.

[-] Jimbo@yiffit.net 1 points 11 months ago

I really don't understand what's so difficult about picking an instance you like. Find an instance- Like the content? Rules look okay to you? Boom, done.

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