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U.S. issues warning to NVIDIA, urging to stop redesigning chips for China::undefined

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I think it's quite clever actually.

They clearly realise that if China can't buy their chips, the CPC will put the full force of a planned economy behind making their own. Once that happens cheap Chinese AI chips will eat their lunch.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Everyone thought that would happen with Huawei. What actually happened was a whole bunch of major countries banned Huawei imports and a lot of the ones that allowed them in are having second thoughts. Germany, for example, is in the early discussion phase to remove Huawei equipment (which is already deployed) from their cell network.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. They want to maintain their insane margins with their oligopoly. The second you get a viable cheap competitor, it will all come crashing down.

Of course, it's a massive undertaking to catch up enough to be feasible. But China has the manufacturing experience, and a government initiative could allocate an insane amount of resources behind it if they were motivated to.

So it's obviously in NVidia's best interest to deter it with appeasement.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also I assume things move much faster there unlike here where every move needs to be scrutinised and approved by 400 different people on 350 different committees.

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dictatorships are more efficient, at a cost

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Depends. Most of them turn into inefficient corruption at every level. China is a bit unique where they have corruption at every level, but also fall in line or get axed whenever there's a big initiative that has too much visibility.

Results vary widely. But at least things get made, big and fast. Quality on the other hand...

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Sure, both will be, corruption is an inefficiency. But the authoritarian society is more egotistic, imo because of the power structure and hierarchy. Like companies meddling in politicians is an inefficiency existing in both

[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

Good point! Hadn’t thought of that