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[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (5 children)

"Capitalism is when stores aren't hotels"

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The point is that there are beds that nobody are using while people are forced to sleep on the ground. Because, yes, a store is unused at night.

It's about resources not being used as efficiently as they could be, because we are looking at the situation from a capitalist ideology point of view.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think the beds are the problem. Housing a single person takes much more resources than just a single bed. Those resources are scarce.

[–] hswolf@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

They are not, we have everything we need for all the 8 billion people living on this rock

https://sharing.org/information-centre/articles/enough-everyone

The first problem is the word "profit", most people who can make astronomical differences, wont move a finger if there's no profit in It.

The second problem is logistics, it's hard to get things around the globe in an organized fashion, and this is usually overcome with big incentives, which brings us to the first problem again.

[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The point is that there are beds that nobody are using while people are forced to sleep on the ground.

If you let a guy sleep on it, then you can't sell it. Who would buy it? The bed isn't "not being used", it's not being used as a bed.

It's about resources not being used as efficiently as they could be

There's nothing inefficient about this allocation of resources.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Showroom beds are usually not the beds that are actually sold. The beds that get sold sit in storage.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The chances that person has bedbugs is non-zero. The chances they haven't showered are also not exactly low. Putting them in a showroom bed could ruin it.

I really want a solution to house people because it's an untenable situation, but 'let them sleep in a bed showroom' is not a good solution.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

100% property taxes on all properties that have sat empty for more than X% of the time the property has existed

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The problem there is that sometimes ownership of a property is either lost or unclear. The woman across the street from us died. Her house has sat empty for years. No one seems to have claimed ownership of it. I doubt anyone is paying property taxes on it because whoever does own it doesn't seem to be aware of it.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh I realize that proposal is unreasonable and unrealistic. I'm just sick and tired of the people who are trying to make things better for others being the only ones that are supposed to compromise and "be reasonable." The opposition has chosen violence and intransigency.

Far as that woman's house is concerned, sounds like a good place to put a homeless squatter, who can then gain lawful ownership since no one else wants the place

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why are you gargling capitalist balls?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yes. There's nothing more capitalist than wanting to house the unhoused.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Eh, bed stores are a particularly ridiculous waste of resources. The average bed store sells like 6-8 mattresses a month, which is inefficient and dumb.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Capitalism is when 27 empty houses per a homeless person, that are used as investments for the rich to play around with their imaginary numbers, while 99% of population struggle to survive.

[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Communism is when made-up stats

[–] Fitik@fedia.io -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

99%

You only prove how delusional commies are

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago

I'm glad that the only problem with my comment you have is that number. Yeah, it might be described as slightly less than that, depending on how you define struggling, some people are perfectly fine with being one medical emergency away from a bankruptcy, and not struggling at all about it. But for the broader point it doesn't matter, really.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

Tell us what you think the definition of "communism" is.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

"I interpreted the picture overly literally to the point it loses its meaning. I'm very smart"

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

You missed the entirety of the point.