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(No, just keep on. These kinds of regulations were long overdue)

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 73 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Apple isn't losing here. Eu is forcing them to make better phones.

[–] Unanimous_anonymous@lemmy.ml 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These changes go against Apple's business model and practices. Forcing USB C will mean they will probably try to add some bullshit software check to their plug in devices so 3rd party hardware makers will once again be shut out. These practices allow Apple to tell their current consumers "don't buy 3rd party stuff. It isn't made well and won't work on our incredible phones". Will that get struck down in the EU again? Probably. Will they make a few billion dollars before it does? Absolutely.

Apple has purposefully avoided moving towards industry standards so they can keep everything in their control. For better or worse, it's actually one if the biggest strengths of Apple products. I know if I buy an iPhone, it's going to work great (until the battery goes), and any of their add on parts are also going to work great because they don't have to design drivers for the 400 different options out there. But that same practice inherently leads to these sort of anti-consumer decisions. Where a decision goes from keeping-in-their-wheelhouse to have-them-by-the-balls.

[–] propaganja@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I will never forgive them for killing the headphone jack—but I at least understand the business model behind it. Samsung's decision to follow suit likewise makes sense.

As for the other manufacturers who jumped on the bandwagon for no reason other than that they saw the big kids do it—handicapping their devices with what is to many a dealbreaker issue, without offering their own line of wireless earbuds / headphones to capitalize off of—I can feel only pity and disdain.

[–] spyr0w@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

so true, I won't switch phone anytime soon, as my S10 still has the headphone jack and I dont want to buy new headphones for 70€+ just because their batteries are dying. (Also it is still running great)

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I will never understand 1/8” jack wanters. Why not just get a dongle? If you want to listen and charge at the same time get one with passthrough. If you’re using a $500 pair of headphones use a good dac.

As the owner of probably a dozen pairs of nice corded headphones, what’s the big deal?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A dongle is one more thing to buy/break/get lost.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I’m actually with you there. I switched to bt headphones in part to get rid of my coiled up corded headphone pocket. You can’t carry anything else with em or else it’s a fiasco getting it out (and in the process tears up your cord).

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah why would I want the clearly superior option instead of bandaid solutions...

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What’s superior about not using a dongle?

Back when that was how I went around, the break point in the cable saved me a few times.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How would it not be? -I don't need a dongle that I can lose. (You might never use your earphones with another device, but I do, so the dongle will need to get unplugged from the earphones at some point) -I can use earphones at the same time as charging. -A dongle is one more thing that can break. -I'm not stressing a port with something that it really wasn't meant for

Also, when I have a headphone jack, I still have the option to use a dongle or bluetooth, so nothing is lost by having the port

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I always just put it in my pocket. They make passthrough charging dongles, never had an issue with one.

How do you plug something not designed for your port into it though?

[–] TheCee@programming.dev 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple didn't get big by producing quality hardware.

[–] pythonoob@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

That's arguable but the biggest selling point for apple is the plug and play environment and ease of use.

Definitely fuck apple but the got some of it right.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Um, what? Apple makes shitty design decisions to manipulate their consumer base. These regulations prevent them from doing that. These regulations mean the consumers win. Apple still has branded braindead consumers, but at least they went be able to scam them on batteries headphones and chargers as easily.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly the eu regulations force Apple to make better phones.