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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by wischi@programming.dev to c/memes@lemmy.ml
 

https://zeta.one/viral-math/

I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.

It's about a 30min read so thank you in advance if you really take the time to read it, but I think it's worth it if you joined such discussions in the past, but I'm probably biased because I wrote it :)

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[–] nadiaraven@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I found a few typos. In the 2nd paragraph under the section "strong feelings", you use "than" when it should be "then". More importantly, when talking about distributive properties, you say x(x+z)=xy+xz. I believe you meant x(y+z)=xy+xz.

Otherwise, I enjoyed that read. I'm embarrassed to say that I did think pemdas meant multiplication came before division, however I'm proud to say that I've unconsciously known that it's important to avoid the ambiguity by putting parentheses everywhere for example when I make formulas in spreadsheets. Which by the way, spreadsheets generally allow multiplication by juxtaposition.

[–] wischi@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

Thank you so much for taking the time and reading the post. I just fixed the typos, many thanks for pointing them out.

There is nothing really to be embarrassed about and if you look at the comment sections of such viral math posts you can see that you are certainly not the only one. I think that mnemonics that use "MD" and "AS" without grouping like in "PE(MD)(AS)" are really to blame here.

An alternative would be to drop the inverse and only use say multiplication and addition as I suggested with "PEMA" but with "PEMDAS" one basically sets up students for the problem that they think that multiplication comes before division.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

I believe you meant x(y+z)=xy+xz.

Actually it should be x(y+z)=(xy+xz), as that's exactly where a lot of people go wrong. They go from 6/2(1+2) to 6/2x3, instead of to 6/(2x3), and thus end up with the wrong answer (cos that flipped the 3 from being in the denominator to being in the numerator. i.e. instead of dividing by 3 they are now multiplying by 3, all because they removed brackets prematurely).

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It’s actually fine to do multiplication before division, you just have to be sure about which numbers are intended to be included in the divisor of your fraction!