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[–] satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Call me paranoid, but a ton of money is at stake over platforms that used to be useful in terms of spreading information. And they're both being tanked at the same time? During heightening 'geopolitical tensions'? And in the face of a strange upcoming election in the United States where both platforms started and are based?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't attribute the to maliciousness what can be attributed to the incompetence

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

Hanlon's Razor

It fits well here.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Perhaps, in Twitter's case. I don't know.

In Reddit's case it's simply a moron aping another; I don't think that Huffman has the depth of thought necessary to evaluate the impact of his own actions.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Twitter is bought out by a raging right-wing sociopath who literally coups other countries for resources, purposefully affects public policy at every opportunity, and habitually pumps n' dumps crypto and stocks, and you think it's impossible for him to have destroyed the platform that used to be the international commons on purpose???? Please justify your reasoning, I can't wait.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

and you think it’s impossible for him to have destroyed the platform that used to be the international commons on purpose???

Don't be a liar. Or worse, assumptive trash eager to put words onto the others' mouths.

I did not say anything remotely interpretable as that. I literally said "Perhaps, in Twitter's case. I don't know."

Please justify your reasoning, I can’t wait.

I'm not justifying the claim that you're lying (or assuming) that I made.

Please go back to Reddit, where assumptiveness and illiteracy are praised and cheered.

[I apologise to other users in this community for my tone, but I think that it's warranted here.]

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Apologies, I suppose. I read it as "perhaps, except in Twitters case."

I won't go back to Reddit, but I will lay down, do some reflecting, and cry a bit. Cheers!

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Apologies, I suppose. I read it as “perhaps, except in Twitters case.”

Apology accepted. I also apologise for the tone.


If you want my opinion on Twitter: I'm not too informed on the platform but I think that he did it on purpose, and due to stupidity. He is a right-wing sociopath and a moron with enough money to become too big to fail.

A smart but malicious person in Musk's shoes would've likely introduced the changes slowly, boiling the frogs there, shifting the Overton window to the right, in a way that benefits rich people in detriment to everyone else - because that would benefit Musk himself. Twitter as "the international commons" makes it valuable for anyone to spread shitty discourses there, in a way that they reach governments directly.

But instead of seizing the tool for his own purposes, he broke it.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is an apt take that I fully, 100% condone.

[–] sab@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

I love these kind of unnecessarily hostile interactions that deflate almost immediately and end on a good tone. Cheers!

[–] MjolnirThyme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago

I'm going Hanlon's Razor on the motive with everyone else here but the fact these platforms were so important to the last election and a failure to capture that influence is the reason they are sinking now. Anyone with a plan is definitely not succeeding and I'm not buying that any of this is 4D chess.