this post was submitted on 12 Dec 2023
1138 points (97.8% liked)

Memes

45308 readers
1653 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] FlickOfTheBean@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

How did they get mixed? I see 1 in arabic and 2 and 3 in Hindu. Is there a good place to start reading or watching about this in your opinion? If not, I'm just gonna YouTube the history of numbers and see where I land

[–] dukk@programming.dev 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

IIRC Hindus invented this number system (with glyphs for 0-9), and then the Arabs starting using it. Eventually the west started using them and credited the Arabs.

As for how they are written, everyone used the same shapes, and then they probably just ended up changing over time (“Hmm…how do I write that number again? Oh whatever I’ll just make it up”)

Feel free to do your own research though.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

IIRC Hindus didn't have a "proper" 0, and Arabs did, which I guess is the reason why they got the credit

[–] dukk@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

Zero was (in its modern form) invented in India. It’s pretty fundamental to the concept of Hindu-Arabic numerals too: it’s how we represent numbers such as 10, 100, and so on.

[–] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I am speechless. My guy. Aryabhatta.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah after some quick googling it looks like I'm wrong. I'm quite sure that's what I was taught in school though, so blame my teacher !

Basically I was taught that Hindus invented the 0 for base-10 numerals, but didn't actually use it for maths (e.g 0*x = 0), whereas Arab mathematicians did.

[–] jdf038@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

I'd go on a youtube journey. I'm sure you'll find some cool linguistics videos about it

[–] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

1 and 9 are the only ones that seem more arabic than hindu. Hindu gets १ and ९. Everything else is pretty close to source.