I totally agree with him. This will bring more people to the fediverse once they realize they can interact with their friends on Threads
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No, this will get people to leave Mastodon for Threads in droves. Really all Facebook is doing here is leaching users away from Mastodon. The average user doesn't know or care about the "perks" of non-Facebook Mastodon instances that Eugene is talking about. They will go with the service with the most name recognition every time, rather than trust an independent, small-time instance operator.
Threads is just Facebook with ActivityPub compatibility and Facebook ads and tracking, so basically they are pulling people away from decentralized networks and back to being under their control. Then the network effects Eugene is talking about will kick in, but moving people away from Mastodon and toward Threads.
Then Facebook can quietly drop support for Mastodon compatibility. Embrace (is done), Extend (with search, advertising, and tracking), Extinguish, cut compatibility with non-Facebook instances and sink the decentralized network, then finally Enshittification.
Why would they leave if Federation with Threads improves the experience of using Mastodon (you can follow many more peoole)? I hate Facebook as much as anyone, but I don't get this argument at all.
If people just wanted an app with more recognition they would have never signed up to Mastodon in the first place.
They won't at the start. But they will after they made friends on threads and then threads breaks the federation again. The people in threads will not move to the fediverse because most of the people they interact with are on threads. They might not even notice that the federation broke. But for the people on the fediverse it will feel as if a large part of their social circle just disappeared.
But before that threads will already make things worse for non threads users. They will start extending the protocol in such a way that fediverse servers won't be able to keep up. They will find undefined cases in the protocol and start using them causing other servers to break/degrade. They will start one-sided slowdown of federation causing people to blame the server they are on instead of threads. Etc.
Nonsense. Even those of us who are on the Fedi most of the people we know are on the large platforms. They’re not forming new relationships. The point stands of the person you replied to, they would just continue using Big Social platforms. There’s 1.2 MAU which is nothing compared to all of Meta’s large platforms not even a blip. They’re not trying to steal Mastodon users