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Threads and the Fediverse | Kev Quirk
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He has some strange takes there, as if federating is mandatory. Servers do block instances and defederate. it’s not misuse of activitypub to do so.
I don’t know what’s the right choice. But some arguments are a bit off to me.
I think he's talking about people on his own instance.
He's Fosstodon admin, so pretty sure he knows how federation works.
Isn’t he also the SO creator? Anyway, I’m sure he understands the technology, yes. And maybe I misinterpreted him. But it sounded like he’s saying that if we don’t federate with Threads, then there’s no point in being on the fediverse, because we’re effectively isolationists”. That’s simply untrue.
Why have a social network if an instance is not social and not a network? He makes pretty good points on why he wants to federate with Threads. I'd personally also like to follow people who are on Threads but not on Mastodon (without joining Threads)
So if an instance federated with loads of other instances but not Threads, I’m not a social network anymore? That makes no sense to me.
I believe defederating should be a user choice rather than an instance unless done for spammy/toxic instances. If instances starts to be too liberal with defederation, you create silos and introduce more hurdles for the growth of fediverse. This creates a broken up network that may not be social for everyone.
Obviously, you can be on an instance that defederates Threads.net if that's your preference.
"spammy/toxic instances" - Meta are a toxic company. They literally have blood on their hands.
"too liberal with defederation" - we're talking about one body specifically; Threads. Nothing else.
As to whether it should be done at an admin or individual level, I have no idea. But they're an unethical company and people less privileged than you and I have died while they profit from it. That alone is enough reason for anyone with empathy IMO.
Sure they are unethical. But the millions of users who have joined them are not and they are not that tech savvy to have even heard of Fediverse. Federating with them opens 2 avenues: Possibly decrease the influence of X/Twitter as it gets more toxic and introduce general people to the concept of Fediverse and give them an option to easily migrate to one of the better Mastodon instances in future from Threads.