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Beeper's next iMessage for Android fix requires access to a Mac (9to5google.com)
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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Its an entertaining chickens-coming-home-to-roost situation for Apple's skeleton key service and I'm glad for it to be getting some much deserved scrutiny.

On the other hand, its another distraction in the same way that "you need to update to our new iOS yeaterday spiel" is a distraction from the fact that

LockDown mode > new update/patch that doesn't address all the main attack surface vulns

Yeah, tho, I would never recommend iMessage to anyone I cared about and thats only one of the many reasons I would never give it the time of day. Signal is superior in basically every way except its not as ubiquitous but its also not a default opt-out first-party thing like iMessage.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

like... i get the scrutiny angle, but how does that jive with he constant demands to be part of it? does than not strike you as the least bit... hypocirtical?

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can you flesh that out a bit more, I'm not sure what you're getting at bur I want to :)

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

damn, i accidentally deleted my comment. i wish there was a confirmation dialog for that!

so, again (sorry)...

There's plenty to criticize Apple for, and Apple gets a lot of hate on lemmy, esp from android users, for not being FOSS and being closed off from non-Apple users. however, for a community so dedicated to android and FOSS that seems to hate everything Apple, this is the seemly one exception where the android community demands access to the closed ecosystem rather than to develop a FOSS alternative, an ideal and directive found all over lemmy and the internet at large.

If Apple and their iCloud ecosystem are so terrible and inferior (a claim i've seen countless times, esp regardin iMessage and how RCS is superior), then why the furvor over getting access to iMessage? it strikes me as contradictory to the values touted here so often.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I’m also confused by this.

Also, why people think that people need to be convinced to use iMessage. I just tell people to text me and give them my number. If they have an iPhone, great. We can play SeaBattle! If not, then I guess our messages won’t be encrypted and we won’t be doing anything illegal together. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Just a bunch of people in here trying to justify why they’re upset that other people don’t want to do things the same way they do.

I would prefer that iMessage fall back to RCS rather than SMS, but whatever. Apparently that’s coming and I’m not downloading another app to message one person. Especially not one owned by Facebook.