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41% of fediverse instances have blocked threads so far!!! (tech.lgbt)

submitted 11 months ago by vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is

I'm not sure if defederating is the correct counter to it

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Defederating from known-bad-actor corporations during the “embrace” phase seems like a perfectly wise choice to me. Keeps them from getting to stage 2.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's not about us embracing them, it's about them embracing the protocol, which they can do whether we stay federated or not.

The argument against defederation is that it tells newcomers that the defederated instance is an island and they're better off joining the place where they can talk to their friends. Meta can more easily extend if we're not around to explain why extending is a bad thing, and if we're not around to advocate for people to ditch Meta's platform and join an open one

Here is what it actually means

Embrace: Development of software substantially compatible with a competing product, or implementing a public standard.

Extend: Addition and promotion of features not supported by the competing product or part of the standard, creating interoperability problems for customers who try to use the "simple" standard.

Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I think it’s naive to imagine that anything we say or do will influence Meta’s behavior or strategy in any way. But I do see your point that when an instance defederates from Threads, it makes an island of itself, not of Threads.