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[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 59 points 9 months ago (30 children)

I don’t think they’re coming home even if (and most likely) dead

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (29 children)

Isn’t it like 350k deployed and 315k dead? Those are insane numbers.

Edit: 315k killed and wounded… not sure of the ratio

[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Afaik, it's 315k casualties, not deaths, which basically means "unable to serve". This includes dead, injured, captured, deserted etc. Also keep in mind that this is an Ukrainian estimate which might be inflated.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, you’re right it is killed and wounded. But, these are US intelligence numbers.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

The US has no reason to not tell the truth… wait

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The ratio is almost always 3:1 in all cases. And I think the US has corroborated Ukrainian numbers very closely in the past, so it's probably a fair guess that 100k Russians have died.

[–] MethodicalSpark@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I thought in Ukraine it was closer to 2:1 due to poor Russian medical training and supplies.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Let's be real, if you're in power in Russia do you want a lot of wounded returning home from this war? Every soldier returning from the front is a potential threat to your narrative.

[–] obbelusk@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Expensive too.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

3:1 of 315k is 80k deaths

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

351k according to today's numbers, crossed 350 two days ago.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Is that always how casualty is defined??? I had no idea

[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

TIL. Thanks for the power up!

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I remember being surprised when I learned that casualty does not necessarily mean fatality. I think it’s a common misunderstanding.

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

basically means "unable to serve". This includes dead, injured, captured, deserted etc.

Ah, I didn't know that. I now envision it sometimes going like:
"Poor Steve, a casualty of war."
"What do you mean, he snuck back home and is watching TV in his mom's basement!"

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