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Japan to crack down on Apple and Google app store monopolies::TOKYO -- Japan is preparing regulations that would require tech giants like Apple and Google to allow outside app stores and payments on their mobile

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[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (4 children)

How are other stores not already possible on Android? Wondering as a long time F-Droid user that is also forced to have "Galaxy store" too.

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think it's more about the defaults included, plus Google hides sideloading more with each new version of android. They have a semi-reasonable worry of "If we show off how easy sideloading is or can be, that enables bad faith actors." Like Microsoft and IE/Edge.

But on a fresh install of Android, if you download f-droid from Chrome or Firefox, you need to:

  • Allow the browser to install apk files
  • Install the apk
  • Then enable f-droid to install apk files

Meanwhile Play Store doesn't have any of that, it's enabled and allowed to download and update anything without user prompt, it's an opt-out.

Plus with how anything that conflicts with a default app like a Clock app, there's a decent shot it might not work due to the default battery optimizations, the internal syscalls for "Google's Clock" instead of "Default Clock" it just kinda makes using anything that's not the one included with your phone more of a headache.

It's easier with SMS, Dialer, browser, and Home launchers, but if you wanted to change any other important apps like your calendar or email it's kind of a headache.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

There's also the recent fallout from the Epic v. Google case which determined that Google was also leveraging their market dominance to manipulate the market and negotiate more favorable deals behind closed doors to reduce competition.

[–] zourn@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, I feel like they've made side loading easier and easier as times go on. Used to be that you'd just get a pop up that installs weren't authorized for that app, then you had to dig through the settings to enable it. Nowadays the pop up has a shortcut to the correct settings page and even visually flashes the right toggle for you to make it easier to find.

[–] CynicRaven@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I could be wrong but I think at one point the outside sources toggle was just a one time thing and affected all applications.

[–] lupec@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You're right, it did use to be that way and I'm pretty sure it also automatically took you to that particular setting when you needed it

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

It's a monopoly in the same sense why Disney and Microsoft had to be investigated from their recent acquisitions. Monopolies in the real world aren't just a "this and only this is allowed", but also more of a "you have a choice, but do you really"

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

They do exiat there is f-droid but i use the neostore client. Its all foss apps would reccommend.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 1 points 10 months ago

To add to other replies, play store protect flags apps with same names but different keys. This can cause false positives for security issues that pop up, I believe f-droid signs with keys generated through their system so they don't match a play store version. Users then could think it's a virus from f-droid and use play store instead.