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[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 87 points 6 months ago

Literally could have happened in Harry Potter. It actually drove me crazy. There were two separate times in the series that she made it abundantly clear that the average wizard doesn't even know what a gun is let alone how dangerous it can be.

I'm willing to bet Protego would stop a bullet but the average wizard wouldn't even try because they would just be laughing at the silly little muggle pointing a piece of metal at them.

[-] Jocarnail@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago

I think a bullet may even be faster than a wizard casting protego.

[-] Khrux@ttrpg.network 42 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This could quickly be explained away as a contingent spell that specifically stops common muggle weapons.

The one moment that really irks me in the concept of wizard wars is a moment in deathly hallows. The gang are captured in Malfoy Manor and Harry manages to grab 3 wands from Draco Malfoy's hand, and casts stupify on Fenrir Greyback, who is hit with thrice the intensity and fucking basically dies.

If this works why aren't wizards rocking bundles of wands, let's see Harry use expeliarmus to counter Voldie's wizard wand Gatling gun of avada kedavra, or a bundle of wands casting sectumsempura and fucking turning a wizard to mince.

Wanna hit me with the torture curse you wizard nerd? I'll just use my bundle of sticks, my wand strap to Wingardium Leviosa you straight into the sun.

[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Also the thing with multiple wands doesn't seem fully explored

Maybe there are potential drawbacks

There's also the logistics of multiple wands and how could that be optimised,

would packing multiple cores into one wand achieve the same effect, or would it damage the wand ?

And I assume more wizards haven't tried to wand thing due to arrogance and being stuck in the past

[-] Khrux@ttrpg.network 6 points 6 months ago

I'm not really a fan of the writing of Harry Potter, it often falls into a trap of being a mystery adventure where the puzzles are then trivialised by magic which seems forgotten next time it would be applicable, and I like to try to race the characters to solutions which you can't really do in this format.

I'd love to write a TV show in the harry potter universe starring a squib (someone incapable of having magical powers who knows if the wizarding world) running a mundane repair shop for wizards in London near Diagon Alley. They'd basically be losing their minds at the regular cast of wizards being upsettingly inefficient and naive with their magical potential, while also running this repair shop for them that looks more like an antiques shop. It would definitely explore these questions as the protagonist pins down their wizard friends and makes them do multiple wand tests etc. The whole show would lovingly poke fun at the unanswered questions and plot holes of the Harry Potter universe and consistently paint the wizards as lovable but arrogant goofs who never had a proper education past 11 years old.

I don't think Harry Potter needs Binary Lasers, those are scary enough in battletech

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago

Duck-foot pistol, but it's just a lollipop stand loaded with Ollivander's factory seconds. It'd almost look like a toy broom until it sweeps an entire squad.

Whatever you say is Latin for "fuck everyone in this general direction."

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'll just use my bundle of sticks, my wand strap to Wingardium Leviosa you straight into the sun.

I wish he did this. This is Gold!

[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Is this in the books or the movies

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

The books. he picks up 3 wands, uses the stunner spell, and the spell blasts greyback so hard he literally flies up and smashes into the ceiling. the ceiling in the entrance hall of a huge mansion so it had to be very high.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

In the books, wands aren't just objects. They have a degree of sentience and therefore can conceivably rebel against the user. I imagined there is a compatibility issue with using multiple wands at once that may have been temporarily suspended when Harry used them on Fenrir. Might be cause the wands hated Fenrir too or liked Harry enough to let that one spell go. I don't know. But in my own head canon the use of multiple wands is untenable because it just doesn't work out and the wizard is more likely to explode themselves that fire off a good powerful spell and Harry, as always, just has really good fucking luck.

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Wands don't generate mana / magical energy. Wizards do. The wands are just efficient at chanelling it in a single beam. So if you use multiple wands together, you sacrifice staying power for firepower. Which means if you miss, you'll take longer to recharge, and meanwhile you are a sitting duck.

[-] Khrux@ttrpg.network 3 points 6 months ago

One thing I don't really ever coming across in the harry potter books were people being exhausted by powerful spells, perhaps I just can't remember a case where that happens.

It's always portrayed that you need a base magical ability and then from then all it's all knowhow.

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Hmm you're right. But the hours-long duel Dumbledore had with Grindelwald is mentioned as something only he could do. So it might be that magical energy is limited, but you'd need to be casting spells for more than an hour or so for it to start having an effect.

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