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[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Americabad amirite

Can't wait until the CCP and their authoritarian allies have more power instead

[–] quantenzitrone@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes americabad

russiaworse and chinaworse tho

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are 2 serial killers. Serial killer A kills people. Serial Killer B rapes, then kills, then eats people.

Serial Killer B existing doesn't make Serial Killer A good by comparison. They are both worthy of scorn to slightly different degrees.

Just because your mother plops you out in a place doesnt obligate you to blindly worship that place from cradle to grave.

The Chinese, US, and Russian governments are bad for some of the same and for some different reasons. There are many developed nations that, unlike them, prioritize the well-being of their people and the future of their society over the economic interests their respective elites, so there's no excuse for any nation not to.

[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, I'm not arguing that the US is good, I'm saying I prefer it to having the authoritarians take over.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You have authoritarians. They aren't our middle manager politicians either. The people lost control of government half a century ago to "turn the bull loose."

If one of our oligarchs wants to build where your house is, you're going away.

A corporation can kill 20 people through profit driven intentional negligence and get a shrug of a fine at most. If you damage their expensive property or get in the way of their oil pipelines, you go away.

If you make a better product and refuse to sell for an insulting pittance, they will use their floors of legal teams to bleed you dry, warp patent laws to fit their narrative, and effectively end you.

Our authoritarians control us through the government they've captured by fully legalizing and institutionalizing political bribery. On economic policy, your vote doesn't matter. Vote red, blue, if another color gains traction they'll buy that color too.

You just like our authoritarians better because they have marketing and PR teams, and inflict their rule by proxy of their middle managers in state and federal government. After slavery and jim crow, our owner class figured out it's easier to quietly rule by pulling strings and using the mass media they own to keep us divided over petty social issue crap, most of which is exacerbated by our rigged by design economy. We can't fight them if we're too busy fighting each other, as we're encouraged to do 24/7. "abortion unbanned... Abortion rebanned... Civil right x granted... Civil right x revoked... Stay angry... Don't look up while we exploit your life for private profit!"

[–] nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Vote red, blue, if another color gains traction they’ll buy that color too.

Poetry

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US is the most authoritarian government in the world. How many countries have the Americans invaded in your lifetime?

[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you even know what authoritarian means?

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I do. For example America invaded Iraq, Afganistan and bombed Syria, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan and more countries. This is just in the last 20 years.

Is there anything more authoritarian than invading a country and killing the people who live there?

The question is whether you know what authoritarian is.

[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you should do that.

you are telling me that a society that invades other countries is not authoritarian?

[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the wrong way to use the term.

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

what's more authoritarian than invasion and murder?

[–] WorkIsSlow@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you not have an issue with the way America uses drone strikes or do you see a secret panel that I don't see that excused other atrocities?

[–] rozno@roznotech.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just think drone strikes with sword bombs are cool as fuck, and I'm tired of pretending that they're not

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

yes, america is evil

[–] spasm01@lemmywinks.com 8 points 1 year ago

War is bad. I am fine giving war crap to Ukraine, it feels like it won't drag on for twenty years like our most recent excursions nor will we have american boots on the ground