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Fear Mongering About Range Anxiety Has To Stop — CT Governor Calls Out EV Opponents (cleantechnica.com)

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Fear Mongering About Range Anxiety Has To Stop — CT Governor Calls Out EV Opponents::Several state governors are fighting fear mongering as they attempt to reduce transportation emissions in their states.

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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 6 months ago

Given Tesla's market share, your claim that easily replaced batteries is "typical" isn't accurate.

Tesla is one of dozens of brands. So no.

it's something consumers should consider when choosing a brand.

Yes but we weren't discussing "choosing a brand", we were discussing EVs.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Tesla is one of dozens of brands. So no.

Tesla is 50% of all EV's sold. So, yes.

Yes but we weren’t discussing “choosing a brand”,

That's the point! You presented "swap a new battery" as obvious to the the OP when it's not obvious. You have to first pick a brand that allows that. Model Y was first with structural battery but others like Volvo and BMW are coming soon.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago

Tesla is 50% of all EV's sold. So, yes.

Right so then "EVs"= "Tesla"? That's the argument you want to go with?

You presented "swap a new battery" as obvious to the the OP

I didn't present anything as obvious. Just a matter of fact.

You have to first pick a brand that allows that.

...which is easy enough?

Model Y was first with structural battery but others like Volvo and BMW are coming soon.

[Citation needed]

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Right so then “EVs”= “Tesla”? That’s the argument you want to go with?

I specifically DIDN'T say that! You said this:

Like by the time you need a new one there will be several affordable third party options that will also increase your range.

You didn't qualify that with "only if you buy a model that doesn't have a structural battery."

Volvo and BMW are coming soon.

[Citation needed]

https://www.sae.org/news/2023/01/bmw-future-batteries---ulrich

https://www.just-auto.com/news/volvo-plans-to-make-battery-pack-part-of-body-structure/?cf-view

GM too:

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/understanding-structural-ev-batteries-2021-07-23/

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You didn't qualify that with "only if you buy a model that doesn't have a structural battery."

Yes that's exactly my point.

Engineers speak of the traditional “Russian nesting doll” method of building battery packs: Start with the battery cells, which then are assembled into modules and finally loaded into a large pack. If that pack is mounted directly to the vehicle frame or body and helps to stiffen and strengthen it, it is a “structural” battery.

That's how batteries are made today. They're still perfectly serviceable. Tesla's batteries aren't serviceable because they're filled with impenetrable foam.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

You didn’t qualify that with “only if you buy a model that doesn’t have a structural battery.”

Yes that’s exactly my point.

So your argument has been that you agreed with me the entire time? Ok.

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