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Having worked for the MTA on the subway system years back, I invite you all to remember that we built one of the very first subway systems in the world, definitely first in scale, knowing we'd make mistakes in implementation, along with a lot of successful ideas.
Everyone else learns from our mistakes, we gladly hosted the engineering team from Los Angeles and Bangkok when they wanted to share notes with us.
With almost 200miles/320km of public tracks, this is easily the most successful mass transit system internationally. "BuT gWaFiTi BaD :( "
Give it a rest, posers.
Nope, first was UK with London Underground in 1863 (has 250 miles of track now) and 5th was USA is 1897.
https://www.oldest.org/geography/subway-systems/
Hi friend, please reread and note the caveat, "one of the very first", which position number 5 certainly includes.
Also, a bit childish to want to rank systems based on creation date. If you feel like "losing", please read on:
But look, the important thing is that both our countries (presuming you live in the UK) have nice mass transit systems to keep cars off the roads. I look forward to visiting your country and riding its underground system at some point.
When somebody says one of the first it implies by time (and US was 30 years later. ) Thus why that link I posted rates them by creation date. If you had claimed by best subway by milage I would link to which one ranks them by order of mileage. If I feel like losing. LOL It isn't a zero sum game we are playing, Just facts I linked. Sorry you feel so offended. Hope you have a good new year.
Most people wouldn't respond to the question, "who was here first?" with "how much time has passed since you got here?". Right?
Yeah, by saying first it would mislead people into thinking USA were pioneers, but they were actually fifth because it took USA longer to institute. Not judging, just saying...and it makes sense because UK has been a country with cities for thousands of years, while USA is relatively new...with a slower need to get people moved
I understand what you're saying, and I don't agree. We'll just leave it there ๐
Parent said "one of," not "the very first." Wikipedia has US with 4 out of the first 10 metro stations https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metro_systems
Interesting to note is that some (all?) of those early metro systems are arguably more successful than the subsequent US systems.
The dates on that list skip over the countries from other web links of same data. maybe somebody forgot to add the others to this data
One could make a similar post of a clean American city and European cities with graffiti everywhere.
Most all major cities have graffiti. I will say that Iโm pretty surprised at the number of EU cities that have massive graffiti everywhere. The US has issues, but a lot of larger graffiti is limited to poorer, less-traveled or more inaccessible areas. EU? Huge graffiti right across shop fronts roll-down shutters on the Main Street. Surprising.
France is a shit hole compared to most US cities, and I'm VERY well traveled. Spain? Absolutely the opposite. Cleanest cities I've ever seen and some of the nicest architecture too.
This crap isn't a monolith, and the US has plenty of good mass transportation systems.
Iโve been to parts of Spain that have graffiti. Barcelona has plenty, Madrid is spotless - of course that depends on the part of town, too.
The point was that you can arrange pictures to look like whatever you want most of the time, not to actually criticize any one country.