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The free fediverses should support concentric federations of instances (privacy.thenexus.today)
submitted 10 months ago by thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/7235896

Here's how Kat Marchá describes caracoles:

"you essentially ask to join concentric federations of instances ... with smaller caracoles able to vote to federate with entire other caracoles.

And @ophiocephalic's "fedifams" are a similar idea:

Communities could align into fedifams based on whatever conditions of identity, philosophy or interest are relevant to them. Instances allied into fedifams could share resources and mutually support each other in many way"

The idea's a natural match for community-focused, anti-surveillance capitalism free fediverses, fits in well with the Networked Communities model and helps address scalability of consent-based federation.

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[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We can't even merge similar/identical communities across federated servers and now we have this idea?

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The fact that we don't merge them is one of the great benefits of the Fediverse, actually.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No its the greatest weakness of the Fediverse.

By grouping them you could be on multiple similar communities on a topic and ensure you’re not going to be spammed with the same article 10 times.

It would also help alleviate the issue of zero engagement on most niche/focused communities.

The benefit is needless redundancy.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

And small niche communities might not be so small once merged and would guarantee the survival of the communities.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

No its the greatest weakness of the Fediverse.

By grouping them you could be on multiple

And sure, we can group them, link them, publish them in podcasts, whatever; but you specifically said merging them which involves only letting one of them exist. I've seen a couple good analyses on the issues with trying to artificially merge communities or limit creation of them, such as the points from this.