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Does not protect you from weather
Cannot haul anything
Takes forever to get anywhere
Thats what your jacket is for.
You can get bike trailers.
Infrastructure issue rather than the bike itself.
What are you hauling anyway?
Robotics to Jita
Oh Jesus. I haven't touched that beast in years. Don't think I've seen a reference to it in about as long
I was away for 10 years but got sucked back in
They say that you never truly quit the game. I played for a week or two when COVID started, before that it'd been maybe a year or two. So ~5-6 years with little to no contact.
I think that means I'm due.
Even online still going strong
Indeed it is :)
Let me present to you:
I'm gonna look like a moron here, but I genuinely have no idea what I'm looking at or how it works haha. Is the bar across the top used as a handlebar..? It doesn't look like the front wheels turn.. ~~Where the hell do you feet go?~~ I think I can see pedals, they're just lined up with the frame so I didn't catch them at first.
These are all over the place in Denmark. Look up Christiania Bikes
Don't even need that. My parents used to have a kid seat on the front and the back of the bike so they could take us both. When you're getting too big to fit on the seat, you learn how to ride a bike yourself.
What in the world, how do you see anything behind that... thing?
You sit the way your head is above, so you see the road.
Seen such things in Amsterdam.
Seems annoying tbh.
And honestly looks a little awkward, including IRL.
But some still drive those and feel fine
If it works it works, I suppose.
Shorts, t-shirts and football boots? Have you heard of rucksacks?
Or a little basket in the bike
I am an ESL teacher who is at war with the word rucksack. It is a gnomic word that blocks understanding. Backpack, a pack for the back. Is that a back pack? Why yes it is Ming! It is a pack on someone's back! Is that a rucksack teacher? Fucked if I know, I have never seen a ruck nor would I know what kind of sack I would need for it.
Yes you are right, this prson should get a rucksack.
A rucksack is a Sack on someone's Rücken.
That's what I get for refusing to google the etymology of things.
Kids can ride bikes in soccer gear...
There's these things called "bikes for kids". There's over a million Dutch people who do soccer (out of 17 million people), and almost all of them go by bike.
Football soccer is the main sport where I live, everyone walks with their stuff just fine with one of these, if that even.
Do you guys carry the grass around or something?
I have winter cycling gear, btw. It doesnt make it not suck.
I'm not hauling a car, motorcycle, toolboxes, tires, materials, etc. with a bike trailer.
My bad for having a job, apparently.
Oh no, it can only do 99% of my transportation needs instead of 100%
Ironically also the reason people shit on EVs with 200 mile real world range
More like 10% but you do you fam
Wear a raincoat or winter jacket, much cheaper than a car.
I have a trailer that can hold 40 kilos. That's enough for anything I need regularly. I rent a moving van for the once in a couple year big item hauls.
Cars spread things apart making places take long to get to not using a car.
When you say takes long to get anywhere by bike, it is a self report you don't live anywhere meaningful with anything fun around you
This reads like someone who doesn't live somewhere that it gets cold
What a weird thing to criticize someone for
Living on the border with Canada, I tell you now that I bike during the winter. It is in fact as simple as wearing the right layers. Even some of the coldest regions in the world have bike commuting.
I don't think the second part is a criticism. It's pointing out that you live in a place who's infrastructure has been completely fucked by car-centrism. Were it designed with walking, biking, or even just public transit of any kind as a priority, the distance between points would actually be short (public transit benefits from shorter distance between stops by having shorter routes Which cuts fuel and maintenance costs).
In order for cities to have changes in their structure, mixed-use zoning needs to be allowed, along with various other reforms to current infrastructure law - laws which disinsentivise driving (car-centric people label it as 'punishment' when it's more just revokal of massive amounts of privilege). It takes several decades, but overtime city footprints would shrink and become much more walkable - and safer - and more quiet.
Except that youre blaming the victims of car-centric city designs. Good one.
Not sure what you're meaning by "... blaming the victims of car-centric city designs." Is this going back to the comment before saying it's a "weird thing to criticise someone for."
Since you didn't quote a portion of my comment, I have no idea which portion you are saying is blaming people for car-centric city design.
"You should ride bikes, bro"
"It sucks"
"Well yeah, your infrastructure is designed for cars!"
That about sum it up?
I think you've misenterpretted these convos. I am not blaming those people for not riding a bike, I literally pointed out the amount of effort and time needed to make their cities more walkable. That's not coming from a place of judgment, I'm just disseminating information I've gathered over time.
The post explicitly states "if entire cities were designed around [bikes] the way they are with cars, everyone would be fine with it", and I think it's important to keep that in mind.
The top of this comment thread states bikes don't protect you from the cold, among other things. The following comment says just to wear a jacket. There's a reply stating the guy saying 'wear a jacket' hasn't lived in cold climate. I then chimed in stating that in-fact, you just need the proper layers to bike in winter.
All of that above is one convo going on parallel to the other.
During this, the original comment also says bikes don't get you anywhere. The second person points out that the original commenter must live in the middle of nowhere, away from anywhere important. That's why I stated I don't think the comment was criticism. I think its just observation.
The reason someone can be in the situation is because A) they live rurally, which is a minority of people globally - or B) they live in/near a car-centric city. I detail the work they'd need to do to change that, and they changes they would have to allow. That isn't blaming them, it's giving a roadmap.
This person is seriously shitting on me for living 20 minutes from my job. What an moronic ciriticism.
Biking during Finnish winters sucks for sure and bike and public transport is slower than car, but it's a tradeoff. Owning a car here is fairly expensive and has downsides of its own.
For hauling bigger stuff I can rent a van or see if any of my friends with one are up to it.