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    submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Zeon@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     
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    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    (No Mr. FBI/ATF I do not actually have those)

    They're legal, they can suck a fat one even if you do have them. You can even have the files for a DIAS (but if you print a DIAS and get caught you'll be in prison for 10yr.) You can print guns just fine legally though, but only for you they are not* transferrable.

    *There is some contention over whether or not it would be legal to transfer. The law specifies intent which is hard to prove, and lends itself to the "well I intended to build it for me, but then eventually I let go of it when I wanted to upgrade..." argument. Thus far I don't think precedent has been set and I certainly don't want to be the case that sets it.

    [–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Mhm, theres tons of people who have been imprisoned who have done what you outlined in your asterisk there and it did not work out for them in court.

    Regardless of how it /should be/, I am worried about /existing reality/, sure seems like this whole situation is astoundingly technical, complex, constantly changing with different rules being interpreted differently by different judges according to different laws in different locales which pass different relevant laws pretty frequently.

    Sure seems like a blanket statement covering guns without a huge write up of specific disclaimers, or a general added comment joking about the complexity of the situation by disavowing being possibly in possession of things that may possibly lead to incarceration is warranted.

    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

    Mhm, theres tons of people who have been imprisoned who have done what you outlined in your asterisk there and it did not work out for them in court.

    There are also people who the DA neglected to bring charges against at all, and people sometimes get acquitted for the same crimes another gets convicted for, with the same or similar evidence, because the jurors voted differently or the lawyers in one were better than the other. Welcome to the American justice system. I notice you glossed over the part where I said "but I wouldn't try that myself" too, interesting.

    Regardless of how it /should be/, I am worried about /existing reality/,

    Ok, well as reality currently exists you can manufacture any arms you can legally own for yourself. You can even manufacture suppressors if you do the right forms, engrave the relevant info, and pay your $200 extortion fee. Yes "all those other laws that apply still apply, you can't legally murder someone with it either, duh, and your entire comment is just Mr. Obvious bullshit."

    All the laws regarding all firearms are everchanging because people keep attempting pointless feature bans and the ATF who cannot legally regulate as they are not a regularory agency keeps changing their "rules" that totally aren't "laws" even though they carry 10+yr prison sentances specifically to make gun ownership undesirable. Welcome to gun ownership "ghost" or otherwise. This doesn't make the statement that "actually gun files are legal to have, you can even legally print them" false just because you read into it too hard and assume that means it allows you to break other laws.