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submitted 11 months ago by lemmony@lemmy.world to c/reddit@lemmy.world

“fuck u/spez” means absolutely nothing to anyone who isn’t familiar with Reddit, it’s just noise.

“FIRE STEVE HUFFMAN” is a clear, actionable statement that has a clear target and goal and actually has meaning to people who don’t know what Reddit is (like say, a potential shareholder or investor)

Idk where to put this since r/savethirdpartyapps got banned so post this wherever will get noise if you agree

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[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 333 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lmao you sweet summer child. You think firing him will do shit? The company has cancer. They are trying to go public. Nothing is going to fix whats wrong with the company now. It's terminal.

This is how it goes.

Company makes good product.
Company goes public.
Company becomes shit.
Company dies.

Rinse and repeat.

[-] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 86 points 11 months ago

Also, firing spez does nothing because this wasn’t spez’s decision.

If you look at the history of Reddit’s API, it had a fee until spez became CEO again and made it free. This was when the 3PA took off.

Being the CEO does not mean that you get to actually make major decisions for the company. Think of the CEO as the face of the board of directors. They are the ones that approve/deny major changes.

You want the board changed, not spez.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 112 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why do we want anything to change?

Why are we still sitting on this new platform talking about ways reddit can be saved?

What's happening to reddit is the end result of the sort of platform it is and the current state of the tech industry. With or without spez, its course is set, nothing we do will slow or reverse it.

Feels like maybe there's some younger people here that haven't gone through the death of a platform/site before. Us older social media folks have seen this time and time again, have had to migrate from self-destructing platform to self-destructing platform many times.

So take it from me: reddit is done. No matter what happens next, it is never recovering. There will be no reset button or rolling back anything. The damage is permanent, and the profit incentives run too deep.

Let it go.

[-] ScrimbloBimblo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 11 months ago

I am so tired of this sentiment. You're not wrong about the corporate stuff, but blaming people for wanting it to get better serves no purpose. For all its flaws, Reddit had something that no other site, not even this one, has been able to remotely replicate. I didn't use the site for news, politics, memes, or mindless scrolling. I used it because it was literally the only place to discuss niche topics and interests.

Whether we like it or not, it's the only place where a lot of these niche communities exist. Users that were here since Digg will find a new home, but the one who can barely use a Macbook may not. And I'm all for helping as many of those communities migrate, but the truth is that for many communities, especially the ones less technically inclined, the death of Reddit means the death of that community, and that's really fucking sad.

[-] Sunforged@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Niche community boards existed before Reddit, they will exist after Reddit.

[-] ScrimbloBimblo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago

Not in a way that's accessible to casual audiences. You can watch literally any show, and chances are there's a sub where you can go talk about it. That was not the case 10 years ago. Unless your show had a cult following, the only people to talk about it with were people you knew. I hope that someday we can turn this site into the same kind of thing, but we aint there yet.

[-] Sunforged@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Yes it was a bit of work to find niche subjects in the old days but it was all out there if you really cared. Having communities too accessible to casuals is both a blessing and a curse. Constant conversation is a great time killer but the quality of those conversations really suffers.

It is really a fine line between the two and I think federated social media could actually pull it off. Reddit has been shit for a long time and the API fallout, even though it had no direct impact on the way I used Reddit, was just the last straw. No point trying to save a dieing animal, sometimes the most difficult decision is for the best.

[-] ParikramaWasi@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, but they will be dispersed over the internet, limiting their reach further.

[-] Sunforged@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Blessing and a curse...

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

blaming people for wanting it to get better serves no purpose

Yeah. No one is doing that. We're blaming them for tolerating bullshit.

The users played every card they had and Reddit didn't move a fucking millimeter. If they had come up with absolutely any sort of compromise, you could have a decent argument. But Reddit has made it very clear that the only changes that are coming are the continued enshittification.

If users actually stopped contributing to the site, they would have no choice but to roll back the changes and come up with another solution. But not even a small fraction of the site's users slowed down for more than a couple of days.

[-] ScrimbloBimblo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

I mean I agree with this part. That's why I'm commenting on this site and not the other one, but that doesn't mean we have to pretend the other one doesn't exist and that we don't care what's going on there. I agree that everyone should move here, but nevertheless, most of them aren't, and I cannot control that. The fact is that most people are not deep enough into the internet to make a pros and cons list of social media sites. They just use what other people use, or what pops up first on Google. We are neither of those things, and until we are, I have a vested interest in what happens at the other place.

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