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[–] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Can't wait to prove you wrong at the democratic primary oh wait shit we're not really doing one of those for some reason

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

"Let's do something that we've not done since the 80's (and was disastrous for us) & will greatly increase our chances of a Fascist USA!"

[–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What do you think would happen that would prove me wrong? A democratic primary is a great way to increase the chances of a Republican victory.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Or it will make it worse. Its not 1976.

[–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I guess we'll see. But pretty much everyone agrees that not undermining the unity of the Democratic party in one of the most divisive elections in American history as facism is knocking at the door, is a good idea.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Highlighting the diversity and love for democracy is better. More authority behavior is not what we need.

[–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

It's not more authoritarian behaviour, it's a very standard precedent that people are arbitrarily getting annoyed about this election cycle. Ideally maybe there would be a democratic primary, but the least authoritarian thing to do right now is keep Trump out of office.

[–] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Running Biden is a great way to have a trump victory

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

LOL. we already had one. Bernie lost... twice I might add. I hope another person like Bernie runs after Biden's, or Trump's :(, 2nd term because even Bernie himself helped talk about things Democrats didn't talk about (healthcare for all for instance).

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You are missing the entire point..

You're doing exactly what you accuse the other side of doing while accepting the 1%'s bullshit argument that there is literally no hope of actual change.

Next 4 years, Next 4 years, Next 4 years, almost there guys don't worry about it.

Picking the better of 2 evils is not democracy.

[–] Kittenstix@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

From your(and my) perspective it's the better of two evils, there are plenty of average democrats that chose Biden on the merits.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've literally never met anyone in real life who actually supports Biden, I'm not saying they don't exist, just that he doesn't exactly get people excited to vote, it's literally just "not Trump"

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yet he got more votes than Bernie. So people definitely like Biden more.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ignore the fact that the DNC is a private org and can pick anybody regardless of vote counts.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, they actively promoted vote counts including super delegates from day 1 in 2016. In no way was that primary fair. This included the actual vote manipulation in Navada.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works -2 points 9 months ago

Lol there is hope for change. 4 and 8 years ago, Bernie could have been a candidate. There wasn't enough people that voted for him in either election, so Hilary and Biden took it. Now, you do need to wait 4 years because Biden is the incumbent, who historically have a good chance at winning. In 4 years, if people want progressive candidate, vote canvas and donate. If not enough people do, then that obviously means not enough people want s progressive candidate.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bernie ~~lost~~ won then got told to eat a dick, and then his voters were told to eat a dick in court.

Then democrats blamed those voters for not voting dem after telling them all to fuck the fuck off.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

Citation needed