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If you're trying to provoke thought, think a little about this statement yourself. This is clearly untrue.
Just because you can always dig deep enough to find a negative, it doesn't imply any sort of equivalence.
I've done things I'm not proud of, but I've never committed genocide. Am I as bad as Hitler?
Now, does that mean that we need to research all of our purchases deeply enough to know every minor cost to humanity and the world associated with that purchase? No, but we can make the best decisions we can with the information we have.
You don't get to become a company able to compete on a global scale without being unethical. Capitalism relies on exploitation.
What I'm asking is it worth the effort to dig so deep to find negatives? I certainly don't have the time to do so with every purchase I make. If I can't afford Tim's soap, does that make me immoral for having to buy problematic soap?
I'd have to look into the things you've done that you aren't proud of before I buy from your etsy.
I agree, know better and do better. But if we need to question our soap purchases, what isn't being made with questionable methods or intentions?
We all have to make decisions based on our own principles and with our own priorities, based on the information we have.
If I knew Tim was a murderer, I might not want to support his business. Up until I knew that, I might have enjoyed his products.
It's not our responsiblity to be all-knowing, but once you do learn something it becomes part of your decision-making calculus.
Then again, even if Tim's a murderer, his soap might be really good.
Well if I, as an occasional customer, learn that Tim is murdering people, I doubt he's still making soaps in his backyard.