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TranscriptAlabama suffocated a man to death in a gas chamber tonight after starving him so he wouldn't choke on his own vomit as they did it. And this was deemed perfectly legal by multiple courts in the vaunted American legal system.

That's what happens when you value institutions over people.

Link for more info: https://www.reuters.com/legal/alabama-prepares-carry-out-first-execution-by-nitrogen-asphyxiation-2024-01-25/

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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Think about how a guillotine works. It cuts off your head from your neck.

Think about how your body works. All of “you” exists in the head. You are dependent on everything below the neck to keep the head alive.

The guillotine doesn’t kill you. It separates “you” from the system that keeps “you” alive. It cuts off oxygen and energy from the brain. It is essentially suffocating, but without the muscles to suffocate.

So you are likely fully awake and aware of your surroundings. You are, in effect, holding your breath until you die, but also aware that “you” are in a tiny basket, separate from the things that keep “you” alive.

No thanks.

You know this smug motherfucker?

That’s Antoine Lavoisier, 18th century French chemist. Brilliant man. This is the guy who named oxygen. One of the founding fathers of the fucking metric system.

He was executed by guillotine during the French Revolution for adulterating tobacco. In reality, he had invented a process for curing tobacco in a way that made it more difficult for retailers to cut or modify tobacco, and the retailers really didn’t like that. He was an aristocrat prior to the revolution and, well, you can see how that ended up.

Anyway, he told his buddy to count his blinks right after his head was cut off.

His buddy counted 12.

Lavoisier was exonerated a year and a half after his death.

"La République n'a pas besoin de savants ni de chimistes; le cours de la justice ne peut être suspendu." ("The Republic needs neither scholars nor chemists; the course of justice cannot be delayed.") Judge Coffinhall, who sentenced Lavoisier. He himself was executed three months later

"Il ne leur a fallu qu'un moment pour faire tomber cette tête, et cent années peut-être ne suffiront pas pour en reproduire une semblable." ("It took them only an instant to cut off this head, and one hundred years might not suffice to reproduce its like."). Mathematician Joseph Louis Lagrange on his death.

[–] tweeks@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I heard that story as well; not sure what to make of it though.

If I understand it correctly, the pressure of your blood is gone right away, circling you in an unconscious state. Blinking could be a reflex of the last thing you were doing. But even if you do stay focussed, 12 seconds seems a lot better than 20 minutes. To be fair though, we don't know how long it 'feels', perhaps longer than the actual seconds.

A grenade bound to the head would be more humane then perhaps. If you don't care about the body. I'd go for that if it was offered.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That’s really the tricky thing about the death penalty. Nobody alive really knows what it feels like.

Tough to get volunteers for a controlled study, too. At least under current ethical guidelines.