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[–] thantik@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

When you treat cancer, some healthy cells die as a result of treatment. It's unavoidable. You're proposing you just let it spread because hey...you might kill innocent cells. You can't see the forest for the trees here. The state having lethal means of punishment still allows us to put checks on the system to ensure this happens minimally. Individual human lives are worthless. Humans progression as a species overall might be worth something, however.

I'm sure you don't mind people having abortions, right? Reconcile those thoughts. If you're okay with abortions, you have to be okay with the state having access to lethal means of punishment. If you're not okay with the state having lethal means of punishment, then you should logically also not be okay with abortions.

They're somewhat separate subjects, but they also involve destroying a human life. My opinion on the matter is reconciled. I'm okay with women having the right to terminate a life inside of them, because it affects them for their entire life. Therefore, I'm also okay with the state punishing people who have ultimately had a negative life-changing effects on those around them, the same way a child might ruin the life of a woman who isn't ready for a child.

My beliefs are consistent. Are yours?

[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Wtf is wrong with you. Your cells aren't sentient, they're not actively experiencing living, so a few as collateral to save a life from cancer is fine.

Living, sentient humans are not okay to treat as collateral. I mean, I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate being killed as "collateral for the greater good" or whatever.

Where did you get your morals from??

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Comparing execution and medical care is hilarious. They are two fundamentally different concepts. You can write your diatribe to try and sound smart all you like, the fact remains that having lethal forms of punishment has, and will continue to, result in deaths of innocent people in the name of 'justice'.

[–] thantik@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In other words no. You hold hypocritical beliefs and you can't consolidate them. You may want to look inwards and try and understand why you make an argument for one and not the other. Consistency in your beliefs is what makes them worth listening to.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So if I don't support the death penalty I also have to not support removing tumours or skin cancer? Because those are both medical procedures that kill something. Your logic is flawed. Abortions and executions are not the same thing.

[–] thantik@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're being disingenuous here...