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[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

That's how you got America in the first place. The Puritans left England to go to America because they weren't allowed to subjugate the people they wanted to. Colonialism fell out of fashion and now they have nowhere to run except Russia, China and Africa, but those places are filled with foreigners already.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Should have known the whole thing was suspect when they landed at the same place they left from.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not exactly. The motivation to leave Europe is right in the Constitution if you look at it carefully enough. The whole church of England (or whatever country) thing was their big problem. They wanted to go somewhere that they didn't have a mandatory church so everyone would be free to practice whatever religion they want. At the time if the church of England was Catholic and you were Protestant, there would be problems (and vice versa).

I'm not sure that the founding fathers really considered that having no religion was also valid, and that having a non-Christian religion was also valid, but that's exactly the ideas they tried to enshrine in the Constitution.

The right wing nutjobs wanting to make their religious beliefs into law would be dissidents when the United States signed that piece of paper declaring themselves as a new country. IMO, they still are, and bluntly, they should go. If they're not willing to be tolerant of other faiths, then they're being rather un-American.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This was a long post that completely missed the point about the PURITANS. The "Founding fathers" were running around 150 years later. That's like confusing someone referencing the 1810s with the 1960s.

The Puritans are the ones that thought the church of England wasn't being theocratically authoritarian enough.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

The thought that the Church of England wasn't theocratically authoritarian enough, is crazy to me. Holy hell. Literally.