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Stanford researchers find Mastodon has a massive child abuse material problem (www.theverge.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by corb3t@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.ml

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Not a good look for Mastodon - what can be done to automate the removal of CSAM?

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[–] balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's illegal in a lot of places including where I live.

In the US you have the protect act of 2003

(a) In General.—Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that— (1) (A) depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and (B) is obscene; or (2) (A) depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; and (B) lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value; or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be subject to the penalties provided in section 2252A(b)(1), including the penalties provided for cases involving a prior conviction.

Linked to the obscenity doctrine

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow, that's absolutely ridiculous, thanks for sharing! That would be a very unpopular bill to get overturned...

I guess it fits with the rest of the stupidly named bills. It doesn't protect anything, it just prosecutes undesirable behaviors.

[–] balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think there's anything ridiculous about it. Lolicon should be illegal.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why? Who is the victim?

[–] balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's no definite conclusion on whether consuming and distributing lolicon content could lead some individuals to seek out or create explicit content involving real children

If they rule that out entirely through the scientific method one day, then I'll join your side

Weebs usually respond to that "Well that's like saying video games cause violence!" so I'll jump ahead of you, that would be like saying we should forbid Lolicon videogames in a society that already has lolicon books, lolicon movies, lolicon cartoons and where history classes mostly cover instances of countries showing lolicon to each other. That's not the situation we're in, and even if it was, it's still not necessarily comparable. Sexual urges have properties that violence doesn't share.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'd definitely like more research on the topic. I imagine it's a correlative relationship, but not causal (as in, pedos disproportionately also like loli, but enjoying loli won't likely make you a pedo), but I don't have much to go on there.

What I do know is that most reports of "gateway" behaviors end up being false. For example, smoking weed isn't going to push you toward harder drugs, but people who may be interested in harder drugs will likely start with weed. The same goes for violent video games, gambling, prostitution, etc. Each of those things can be used in a healthy way, so imo they should not be illegal.

But I don't have a high quality study to back it up. I'm completely willing to concede if the science shows otherwise.