this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2023
461 points (99.8% liked)
sh.itjust.works Main Community
7584 readers
3 users here now
Home of the sh.itjust.works instance.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Indeed. That's why the block button exists. If you don't want to hear someone, you can block them. But if two people wish to speak, why do you feel like you should prevent them from speaking to each other?
No. My "want" is to be able to discuss things, understand where people are coming from, and arrive at something that is mutually beneficial. The best way to do that is to avoid censorship nazis.
Yes, I'm fully in favor of people curating their own experience, not the experience of others.
Actually it prevents other people who do care from seeing it. Defederation is not a "personal block button" it's a wall preventing anyone on the instances from communicating.
The opposite, actually. I'm in favor of people blocking who they want. We are both on kbin. If I wish to see posts by those exploding head guys and you do not, what do we do? If we defederate, you are forcing your desires onto me. If you just block them yourself personally, then you get what you want, and I get what I want. win win, right? So I don't understand why you would defederate, rather than just block?
The opposite. I've spoken many times that beehaw and sh.itjust.works are entirely free to do what they want. I don't agree with those communities defederating, but naturally they're gonna do what they're gonna do.
If you like beehaw's federation policies, and not kbin's, why not use beehaw instead of kbin? Surely that is the obvious thing to do?
My concern is over my own instance preventing me from speaking to others. If beehaw wishes to block kbin, I'm not gonna cry over it, I can speak to people elsewhere. But if kbin starts defederating, then I have an issue. I believe most places will wish to have open and civil discussions and federate with more or less everyone. This is how kbin currently does things, and I support that. But if everyone is just going to defederate each other, why bother with federation at all?