I have to disagree. Accessibility of underground transport is abhorrent. Changing from underground to aboveground buses and trains is also shit. The space use of public transport in comparison to car infrastructure is completely negligible. If anything put all the cars underground as they are ugly and stinky. This picture also give you happy chemical because it is green and is not another dead, sealed asphalt hellscape.

[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I quite like underground transport, the stations can be absolutely stunning.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That might be the higher-than-is-really-safe concentration of fumes doing the stunning...

[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What fumes?

[–] Threeme2189@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

The toxic fumes created by all of those electric trams and subway trains, duh! /s

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

He's making his own.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The London tube is full of soot from the days when they burned coal in there. It's the only subway I've been in where every time I walked out, there would be black tarry shit in my nose.

Also, the brakes for trains throw all kinds of dust into the air in subways

[–] uis@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

[–] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

wym accessability is abhorrent?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Its literally underground. Anyone that has a wheelchair, old people, blind people etc are not gonna enjoy using it. Elevators are often out of order and even if not its a hurdle.

[–] qwrty@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Ramps, escalators, tiles, and seating. There is nothing inherently not accessible about subways, we just choose not to make them accessible. When I was in Japan, there didn't seem to be any issue preventing wheelchair users, old people, or blind people from using the train system. Escalators can be used by people in wheel chairs and old people (and presumably blind people too, but I'm not sure.) There were tactile tiles in the floor to guide the blind, and there was plenty of seating specifically dedicated to old people, disabled people, and pregnant people. There were also wheelchair accessible cars on every train. As far as I could tell, it seemed just as accessible and easy to use for them as anyone else. (Also elevators were only usually kept open for the people who needed them)

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Maybe in your city...

[–] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You sound like a concern troll. By this logic houses with more than 1 floor are by definition not accessible

[–] Draugnoss@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But... They are literally not. My family never had the ability to move to any house they want because everything needs to be accessible on the ground floor.

[–] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What should I conclude of your personal experience, if it conflicts with what I hear from the disabled people in my life?

[–] Draugnoss@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

Maybe the fact that the disabled people in your life are lucky enough to be able to enough or be in positions where they can still function well?

Fuck, we can't live in a house with proper door thresholds if we want the person in my life to have any semblance of independence.

Please, don't assume your experiences are universal.