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[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In that case, is "patriarchy" the right label? Most men (racial minorities, non-cis, etc) face systematic oppression, so it doesn't seem like gender is the problem. Seems like oppression follows class lines, not gender, race, orientation, etc.

[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Maybe Kyriarchy works better for you? It describes a multi layered and interactive web of stacked series of oppressive factors that encompasses race, class, gender, sexual orientation, ablism issues etc.

Though under the definitions of patriarchy men are still oppressed. Young men and the poor are held in sway and looked at as disposable pawns and labor by the patriarchs - powerful men in the lead positions, like male heads of the family, but in this instance the 'family' is government, military, businesses and corperations, guilds, unions and bosses. The the buy in for those men at the bottom is that even a lowly man gets to feel like they are better at least than women. The act of being a woman is an automatic sort of failure state. Hence why men behaving in a feminine fashion are a threat. It subverts the hierarchy when someone willing chooses to behave as "lesser" of their own volition and seem happier for it.

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

The the buy in for those men at the bottom is that even a lowly man gets to feel like they are better at least than women.

This hasn't been my experience, most authorities in my life have been women (teachers, bosses, etc). Even upper leadership in the company I currently work for has slightly more women than men. Obviously not everyone has the same experience, but I don't think the picture you tried to paint is a universal truth.

[-] VirulentAura@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I don't care if you call it The Wibbly Fuck Problem. Stop worrying about what it's called and just do something about it. Damn. Everyone always worry about the unimportant shit.

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

What are you doing to stop the ruling class from oppressing the rest of us? Seems like you're just posting on Lemmy, same as me.

[-] charolastra@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

I see a lot of mouth and no trousers/skirt in this statement.

[-] VirulentAura@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Pervert. I don't have to show you my ass just so you don't be a dick.

[-] tenitchyfingers@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Oppression follows ALL those lines. Oppression and privilege are intersections. That’s why a woman can be black but also be rich and live a better life than a dude who’s poor.

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