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cross-posted from: https://derp.foo/post/81940

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[–] snooggums@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Self driving with driver assist" or whatever they call it when it isn't 100% automated is basically super fancy cruise control and should be treated as such. The main problem with the term autopilot is that for airplanes it means 100% control and very misleading when used for fancy cruise control in cars.

I agree that it should be limited in use to highways and other open roads, like when cruise control should be used. People using cruise control in the city without being in control to brake is the same basic issue.

Not 100% fully automated with no expectation of driver involvement should be allowed when it has surpassed regular drivers. To be honest, we might even be there with how terrible human drivers are...

[–] GonzoVeritas@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Autopilot systems on airplanes make fewer claims about autonomous operation than Tesla. No pilot relies completely on autopilot functionality.

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Autopilot in aircraft is actually kinda comparable, it still needs a skilled human operator to set it up and monitor it (and other flight controls) all of the time. And in most modes it's not even really all that autonomous - at most it follows a pre-programmed route.

[–] 4am@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can’t the newer ones take off and land as well?

[–] Bene7rddso@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, but the pilot still needs to pay attention and be ready to intervene

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

They can, but the setup is still non-trivial and full auto landing capability isn't used all that much even if technically available. It also isn't just the capability of the aircraft, it requires a shitton of supporting infrastructure on the ground (airport) and many airports don't support this.

That would be equivalent to installing new intersections where you'd also have a broadcast of what the current signals are for each lane, which would help self-driving cars immensely (and regular cars eventually too, with assistive technologies to help drivers drive more safe), but that's simply not a thing yet.