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Because it's useless to argue against opinions not based on facts.
It is, yeah. you can't reason people in an unreasonable position. I recommend trying to appeal emotionally.
If people can't be reasoned with with facts then they're not worth arguing with because they don't have the intelligence or maturity to form logical opinions and will just as easily be swayed back into their previous, and wrong, position.
I agree, but in public spaces you can still make them look like a fool.
The problem being that they still manage to convert people even when they look like fools to the majority and the only way to prevent that is to keep them out of the discussion altogether.
Bullshit that's the only way.
I mentioned this before, but Daryl Davis has used discussion and understanding to convert KKK members out of their hateful ideology. It's a method that works and is worth chasing for. Hell, I'll make it easier to convince you, you've heard of the Paradox of Intolerance, yes?
also downvote me? i downvote you. lol (Not like it does anything on this site, but feel free)
You're talking about someone meeting people in person, it has nothing to do with the situation at hand because anonymous people on the internet will never be as reasonable as people you're speaking face to face with.
If you knew anything about the paradox of intolerance you would also know that the philosopher behind it also said that only those who have arguments based on reason should be allowed to speak their intolerant message because only they can be reasoned with. The alt-right doesn't base its message on facts or reality, therefore they shouldn't be tolerated.
haaah, caught you now. Here, you used an offline persona as justification that censoring online communities works.
But once I use an offline persona as justification that discussion works, suddenly it's invalid.
How embarrassing. Just in case you delete your comment, I'm going to tag you, @Kecessa
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