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NTFS turns 30 years old today! I hear it's still in use by some crufty old legacy operating systems 😁 (en.wikipedia.org)
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Happy 30th Birthday "New Technology" File System! Thanks for 30 years of demonstrating Linux superiority with a gap that widens with every new kernel release 👍

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[-] proton_lynx@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

I think a better question would be: "what's not wrong with NTFS?"

[-] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 31 points 11 months ago

His list is so expansive he cant even list one item from it in response.

[-] Dax87@forum.stellarcastle.net 11 points 11 months ago

The only reason why there's NTFS hate in the Linux community is because it's associated with windows.

This tribalism bullshit is tiring.

[-] Sikeen@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

most of it yeah:/

[-] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 11 months ago

NTFS is genuinely inferior in many respects, especially on hard drives, Mister Blue Tribe.

[-] Dax87@forum.stellarcastle.net 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, NTFS lacks features that surely one of the many Linux filesystems have. But it also has features others do not. There is no one-siize-fits-all filesystem.

  • Ext4 is generally faster than NTFS, but cannot handle as large of files
  • ZFS has a multitude of features that NTFS does not, like zraid, dedup, etc., but usually at the cost of RAM.
  • BTRFS is included in the Linux kernel and also has many features, like being able to conveniently switch hard drive raid-like configurations on the fly with rebalance, but doesn't support fs-level encryption
  • NTFS lacks in many features the others do not, and is a "non-standard" filesystem. However, it's one of the few with better cross-platform support, more advanced access control, pre-emptive journaling, reparse points, etc.

It's quite obvious that my calling out tribalism has felt to you an attack.

We get enough of this "us vs them" mentality in literally every topic and medium. I'd just like a little more nuance and genuine discourse. So I apologize if I've offended you.

[-] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 0 points 11 months ago

Ext4 is generally faster than NTFS, but cannot handle as large of files

Going to be honest with you, this has not been my experience.

And you can imagine whatever you want, but that doesn't make it reality.

[-] Dax87@forum.stellarcastle.net 2 points 11 months ago

? Imagine? 16 exabytes for NTFS according to multiple sources, like Wikipedia and Microsoft documents, and 16 terabytes for ext4.

If you want to refute that then it's most likely you have just had some unlucky experience, and at best it's anecdotal.

Considering your rather disingenuous second sentence, I can see that you are not here to engage in conversation, but to troll. You're exactly what nobody needs buddy. Cya.

[-] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 0 points 11 months ago

im not the one who came onto a linux community to talk about how microsoft is better

[-] nakal@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'll try. Short: It's not as powerful as ZFS.

Examples:

  • no low cost snapshots (don't harm performance)
  • no checksums, no self-healing
  • 256 TB limit
  • magical reserved $ and OneDrive filenames
  • magical 8.3 mapping
  • broken standard API calls (CreateFileW instead of fopen)
[-] falsem@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

Another reason ZFS is better is it gives you something to do with all your spare RAM.

[-] Sikeen@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

also ntfs doesn't support many common symbols. so you can't use them

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