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I think we need all support we can get to fight Google on this, so I welcome Brave here actually.

Use this link to avoid going to Twitter:

https://nitter.kavin.rocks/BrendanEich/status/1684561924191842304

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[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 1 year ago (26 children)

I don't understand.

There's loads of people for whom 3 or 4 sites make up 99% of "the web", and those sites will just stop working for people using browsers without WEI support.

I just don't really see how a browser could be viable in the future without WEI support.

[–] mrmanager 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that's exactly the point. WEI makes it a world where big tech decides if they are going to support a competing browser, a competing operating system like Linux, or plugins against ads. They can also force you to have any number of plugins installed, from their choosing.

It destroys the free web completely.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes but why is eich saying this? It would be the end of brave surely.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it won't. It'll just fork the internet.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Genuinely not sure if you're joking. Brave people are... difficult to understand.

[–] Beliriel@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wether it is the end for brave or not we don't know (judging by the core users of Brave and FF I highly doubt that it will just be the end of Brave or Firefox)

I'm fairly certain that it will split the web apart even more. Then we have the "totally safe and totally not monitored" adinfested buzzweb. We have the chinese walled garden web. And ofc the darkweb (e.g. tor and onion-sites). And the new addition will be the gray-web or something because "ya JusT cAn'T be SuRe" (completely disregarding that the current APIs are really just about all that's needed. Imo someone running a website has in their own interest and in their own responsibility to secure their site and servers. WEI is a cheap stupid cop out at best for security concerns and "you WILL be looking at our fucking ads, you fucking data slave" at worst.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just don't see how a browser could be viable if it wasn't compatible with say Google/ twitter.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use brave search. If Twitter implements this thing, I guess I'll stop using it completely

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My goodness me.

Of course it will be possible to avoid use of any WEI sites, but I think it will be much more difficult than you think. What about internet banking, or government websites, or stack overflow.

We both know that you'll end up using Brave where you can, and some other browser with WEI support.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha, you think government and banks update their websites

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Took the government like ten years to stop requiring people to use IE6

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