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Removable battery is the big one. I had a phone where they only cost like $15, so I could take 2 of them on a trip and last a week w/o charging.
I did see that, of all phones and manufacturers, the Kyocera DuraForce Pro 3 on Verizon actually has removable batteries (and an sd card slot).
There's definitely a business opportunity for hot swapable batteries. I really don't understand why no one is exploiting this market. Construction, factory and all scale workers need phones and if they can hotswap battery they'll gonna love that.
They make rugged phones and tablets for industrial setting with replaceable batteries. But they are way more expensive that consumer devices of the same spec.
Just curious, what situations do you find yourself in relatively frequently that a hot swappable batter would be more convenient?
Nowadays w/ 15 SOT I don't think I've actually needed one minus camping where I don't really use my phone much anyways.
Being able to rip the battery out when the phone locks up. Needing to make sure it's actually off and can't be remotely powered on. When it's 3 years old and the hardware is still well up to the task but the battery lasts 4 hours.
How often does your phone lock up that that's necessary? I used to have lockups a lot more but android is damn stable now, haven't had one in years.
Do you disconnect your PC's PSU?
Fair, but if you're getting 4 hours SOT after 3 years, it's just not a great phone. My current Note 10+ still pumping out 10 hours SOT and I'm a HEAVY user.
Honestly in 2015 I'm totally on your side for this, but in the last few years I've never felt the need to hotswap batteries, and only slightly felt the need to replace it in general.
Samsung does produce the xcover series for construction/industrial use. I seriously considered one, the issue was it would have been a downgrade for me in CPU, display and doesn't have dex
EU got you fam.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/24/23771064/european-union-battery-regulation-ecodesign-user-replacable-batteries
The next administration will just revoke it
Not really how the EU works.
Every president does it
What are you talking about? The EU doesn't have a president.
Go back to Reddit troll.
I don't understand that argument, power banks are widely accessible nowadays, you can charge your phone without downtime, also can't imagine charging this additional battery, like shutting the phone down jest to charge the second one? I'm all for user replaceable batteries tho in case of battery degradation and prolonging device's life
While true, my personal gripe is when the main battery goes to shit. It's nice to be able to swap it out and get another 3-4 years out of it
Yeah that's what I meant, it's carrying extra batteries to swap in case one in the phone dies, that I don't understand
At that point you are using outdated tech
That's not the point. Everyone has their reasoning for prolonging the lifespan of their equipment, outdated or not. This mindset of disposable gadgets needs to end.
I prefer newest tech
Good for you, not everyone can afford to upgrade their stuff every two years
Thats a choice. Anyone can make money. Sell your old stuff
The only phone I had to even consider changing the battery was a Windows phone in 2015 and the replacement battery was the same age (and degraded state) as the old one. I don't get the need for quickly swappable batteries.
I used to carry a backup battery so if I was away from a charger camping or so ething I could just pop a fresh battery in
The real key to making this work properly is standardized battery sizes. You know, like the AA and AAA standards we've had for one hundred years.
"Real" batteries would be too big because they need casing. Phone batteries on the other hand are fragile, because: no casing.
As I said, there's no need for quick-change batteries like in an xbox controller, because most people can go years on a single one.
But a self-service battery change when it's ruined should be a thing. Preferably without glued-in parts.