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[–] Jesus_666@feddit.de 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

True, but those are not the people the men's is making fun of. It makes fun of perfectly healthy people who decide they need gluten free everything because they heard that gluten is bad and they can't do any research on how and why. Same with vegans who are only vegan because it's trendy (and who probably cheat every other meal because a vegan lifestyle actually requires a fair amount of effort and learning about nutrition).

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

a vegan lifestyle actually requires a fair amount of effort and learning about nutrition

I was actually surprised by how little effort it really took? Like replace butter with margarine, slave milk with oatmilk and, unless you're baking, eggs aren't actually that important.

The rest is just choosing different meals. Roasted vegetables, fried rice, bulgur, beans etc. instead of steak or sausages or what have you. Get some starchy stuff, some veggy stuff, some proteiny stuff = heathy meal. Most nonvegans live less healthy than that. Then there really is only the B12 debate left, and if you want to err on the safe side just take some supplements. They're really cheap.

Sure, it wasn't 0 effort, but it wasn't exactly rocket science either. Just kind of look at what you're eating, throw out the non-vegan stuff and go from there. If you have any qualms about the exploitation of beings with a consciousness, who can feel the pain and suffering when their kids are killed just give it a try.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's actually not quite as easy, you do have to at least get a rough understanding of what you need and where to get it.

Especially for women, iron deficiency is a real problem. For some reason, they lose a bunch of iron every month and that needs to be replaced. A lot of women are running low on iron even with "conventional" diets, so dumping all the iron rich animal products can be a problem.

It's far from impossible, but you have to educate yourself a bit about your needs.

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

But thats true about nutrition in general. A lot of people have deficiencies without being vegan, this stereotype that veganism is somehow dangerous unless you know what you're doing is just wrong. People need to be more educated about nutrition in general independently of veganism.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

slave milk with oatmilk

What's slave milk?

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Milk produced by slave labor.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What slave labour? Is there slave labour where you live?

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The slave labor of the cows and goats in this case.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago
[–] owatnext@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

a vegan lifestyle actually requires a fair amount of effort

It isn't that hard in most "well developed" (sorry to use that term) places. Sure, you have to look at some nutrition labels and maybe take a B vitamin, but it isn't arduous. Took me next to no effort, but going from ~18 years vegetarian to a vegan diet wasn't hard for me personally.